Saturday, September 06, 2014

A Radical Problem In Brief

Lake Como-Travel+Leisure, Facebook

Lake Como, Italy, trekearth
Facebook on Friday night

Co-worker '(Radio) Mr. Russ, please come back'.

Co-worker 'This looks like fog on the screen'.

Me 'It is sunlight, the sun is beginning to go down (from our perspective of course). It is an effect'.

Co-worker 'Oh'.

Me 'And you have the science degrees'.

I am glad that the gate arm did not stay stuck earlier, only briefly...

A Radical Problem In Brief

With the media documented murderous acts of ISIS: Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, notably against Muslims and Christians in Iraq and against at least two noted American journalists with beheadings; I am philosophically pondering on how to deal with a threat of radical Islam in the Western World.

Personally, as far back as the Crusades, I think it was likely a mistake for the Western World and the Christian Church (although politicized) to ever get heavily involved with the Islamic and Arab worlds.

Now there is a history, both good and bad, positive and negative for both sides to remember and rehash.

If there was no such negative history, would radical Islam be a threat to the West today?

Perhaps, but I seriously doubt it would be as great.

Rather friendly relations at a distance while maintaining a strong Western military advantage would have been better.

As a corporate security officer working with Sikhs, Christians, a Latter-day Saint, a Muslim and other, there have been discussions on the issue.

With my Sikh co-workers and my Christian co-worker there is agreement that in general, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, Secularists, Feminists, Atheists, Agnostics, Latter-day Saints, Jehovah's Witnesses and a variety of other persons with religious and non-religious philosophical views can co-exist within the Western World without one group wanting to kill or behead the other.

Even with some major religious and philosophical disagreements.

It is mainly it seems, the radical, militant Islamists that are very much opposed to toleration of others and democracy and have the theological concept of convert to Islam or die in regard to all other groups, including other Muslims that they find objectionable.

Other notable exceptions that would be opposed to toleration and democracy, not stating this is an exhaustive list, but these philosophical views are not prevalent in the West presently, would be those supporting Communism, certainly as in anything resembling that of the Marxist-Leninist, Soviet Union and those supporting Fascism as in anything resembling Nazism.

Lewis M. Hopfe admits that one of the most controversial aspects of Islam is 'Jihad' (Holy War). Hopfe (1987: 419).

Pagans he writes may have been forced to convert but Jews and Christians and others were free to worship and they chose. Hopfe (1987: 419).

It is admitted by Hopfe that there is a Muslim doctrine that one must do battle for God. Hopfe (1987: 419).

This is contrasted by Christ as the kingdom of God is not of this world.

New American Standard Bible

Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm." (John 18: 36).

Instead of Kingdom of God is eventually established as in fully culminated in Revelation 21-22 by God, and not by the military acts of the Church, Christians, Jews or people of God.

The Holy Roman Empire would be a politicized version of Christianity which I would not consider primarily Biblically based.

In addition to attempt to force any type of conversion is to miss the point that God converts persons as in God chooses (Ephesians 1-2) and molds one for works by faith through grace through the atoning and resurrection work of Christ. One is born again by an act of God in John 3, not by an act of the sword.

Doubtless there would be many documented cases found today where radical Islamists have attempted to coerce and force Christians, Jews and persons of all types of religions and views to their type of Islamic views. Some at the threat of death.

S.A. Nigosian states the goal of Jihad is not so much conversion but for Islam to gain 'political control over societies'. Nigosian (1994: 448). This is done in order to rule them under Islam. Nigosian (1994: 448).

Therefore

It seems reasonable that anyone holding to such radical views should be barred entrance into a Western nation. I am not stating that all Muslims should be barred from the West, but that radical Islamists that demonstrate in their public or discovered views opposition to toleration and democracy should not be allowed into Western nations. Anyone that prefers Sharia (Islamic law) to Western democracy should be barred entrance.

On a practical level I suppose a burqa ban would be a deterrent for entrance for many Islamists considering entrance into a Western nation.

Yes, this could be considered a decrease in liberty, but would such people if provided entry really desire to uphold Western liberty and democracy if there was a Muslim majority?

Doubtful if they prefer Sharia (Islamic law).

HOPFE, LEWIS M. (1991) Religions of the World, New York, Macmillan Publishing Company. 

NIGOSIAN, S.A. (1994) World Faiths, New York, St. Martin’s Press.

29 comments:

  1. Hello! Do you use Twitter? I'd like to follow you if that would be okay. I'm undoubtedly enjoying your blog and look forward to new updates.

    ReplyDelete
  2. Appreciating the persistence you put into your blog and in depth information you offer.
    It's good to come across a blog every once in a while that isn't the same unwanted rehashed material.

    Fantastic read! I've saved your site and I'm adding your
    RSS feeds to my Google account.

    Also visit my site - legal assistance washington state

    ReplyDelete
  3. Hello to every one, the contents existing at this web page are really remarkable for
    people experience, well, keep up the good work fellows.

    ReplyDelete
  4. Some do.

    For me I do not see the plus in trying to build a new audience from new on Twitter when I can use Facebook...

    ReplyDelete
  5. A doctor addressing a large audience in Oxford Opening opened the floor for questions which can be disastrous:

    The material we put into our stomachs should have killed most of us sitting here, years ago. Red meat is full of steroids and dye.

    Soft drinks corrode your stomach lining. Chinese food is loaded with MSG. High trans-fat diets can be disastrous and none of us realizes the long-term harm caused by germs in our drinking water.

    But, there is one thing that is the most dangerous of all and most of us have, or will eat it. Can anyone here tell me what food it is that causes the most grief and suffering for years after eating it?"

    After several seconds of quiet, a 70-year-old man in the front row raised his hand, and softly said, "Wedding Cake".


    ReplyDelete
  6. A little friendly debate with my friends, DM, esp. JB...

    He states it could be that my lurkers, esp. ones that give me thousands of views 'just find my posts interesting'.

    Of course they find me interesting on Blogger, Facebook and Google+.

    Well, not too sure about Google+...

    Yes, I am totally that brilliant!!!;)

    Yes, I am sold...

    We discussed

    Social rules and culture often prevail.

    Why are there 1 billion+ Muslims, because of theological evidence or because of social rules and culture?

    Point made...

    I made that one tonight with our meeting.

    No rebuttal...

    Do you really think Uncle Chuck cares about my latest Michelin Man update?

    Doubtful.

    We could be in a World War, not likely but possible.

    And I am not certain we will win.
    I think we will draw because the West does not have the stomach for six figure deaths v. Russia and China.

    There is moral decay and a declining Church.

    So latest news is I am in line for leadership at the church I am attending as in small groups...

    ReplyDelete
  7. Itis to note that Male Enhancement Products That WorkThe Internet is the best
    among all the options available be produced before purchasing one answer or a mix of many.

    ReplyDelete
  8. My very funny boss at the software company where I worked has come up with what just might be the perfect way to cut business conferences short before they start rambling out of control.

    There comes a time when he announces, "All those opposed to my plan say, "I resign."

    End of meeting.

    …..Doc’s Daily Chuckle (pkaine@roadrunner.com) by way of “Christian Voices” (ChristianVoices@att.net)

    ReplyDelete

  9. Hey there! I know this is kinda off topic however I'd figured I'd ask. Would you be interested in exchanging links or maybe guest authoring a blog post or vice-versa? My site discusses a lot of the same topics as yours and I feel we could greatly benefit from each other. If you might be interested feel free to send me an e-mail. I look forward to hearing from you! Superb blog by the way! Feel free to visit my blog post buying gold and silver

    ReplyDelete
  10. Can I simply just say what a reliuef to find somebody that actually knows what they arre talking about onn the internet.
    You definitely realize how to bring a problem to light and make it important.
    More people need to look at this and understand this
    side of the story. It's surprising you're not more popular because youu definitely possess the
    gift.

    my site - Lloyd Irvin martial arts - www.youtube.com -

    ReplyDelete
  11. Amazing! Its gеnuinely remarkaƄle artіcle, I have got much
    clear idea regarding from this paragгaph.

    ReplyDelete
  12. A devout Arab Muslim entered a black cab in London. He curtly asked the cabbie to turn off the radio because as decreed by his religious teaching, he must not listen to music because in the time of the prophet there was no music, especially Western music which is the music of the infidel.

    The cab driver politely switched off the radio, stopped the cab and opened the door.

    The Arab Muslim asked him, "What are you doing?"

    The cabbie answered, "In the time of the prophet there were no taxis, so wait for a camel.."

    ReplyDelete
  13. This amazing systems indicates that you have
    a pending payment available:

    => Click Here To Claim
    You have 1.5 hours.
    Thanks,
    Emily

    ReplyDelete
  14. Why hasn't anyone told you about the joint comfort mineral? [Exposed]

    ReplyDelete
  15. Oh, my time is way up, 'twajack'...

    Once again, I don't use joints...

    Fredemies? As in Brasil or Flintstones?

    ReplyDelete
  16. As a court clerk I am well-versed in the jury-selection process. First, a computer randomly selects a few hundred citizens from the entire county to report for jury duty on a particular day. Then, another computer assigns 40 of those present to a courtroom. Then, the 40 names are placed in a drum, and a dozen names are pulled.

    During jury selection for one trial, the judge asked potential Juror No. 1 if there was any reason he could not be a fair and impartial juror.

    "There may be," he replied. "Juror No. 12 is my ex-wife, and if we were on the same jury, I guarantee we would not be able to agree on anything."

    Both were excused.

    …..Doc’s Daily Chuckle (pkaine@roadrunner.com) by way of “Christian Voices” (ChristianVoices@att.net)

    ReplyDelete

  17. Having read this I believed it was extremely enlightening. I appreciate you taking the time and effort to put this article together. I once again find myself spending a significant amount of time both reading and leaving comments. But so what, it was still worth it! My web-site facetime not connecting on macbook air

    ReplyDelete
  18. An Amish Farmer walking through his field notices a man

    drinking from his pond with his hand.

    The Amish Farmer shouts: "Trinken Sie nicht das Wasser,

    die Khe und die Schweine haben hineingeschissen!"

    Which means: "Don't drink the water, the cows and pigs have shit in it!"

    The man shouts back: "I'm a Muslim, I don't understand your gibberish.

    Speak English, Infidel!"

    The Amish Farmer shouts back in English: "Use two hands, you'll get more!"

    ReplyDelete
  19. Quality articles is the crucial to be a focus for the users to go to see the
    web site, that's what this web site is providing.

    ReplyDelete
  20. After work this morning I was downtown Vancouver at a building where apparently according to a manager of sorts, a guy by sitting on a toilet caused $160, 000 damage to three floors via plumbing and a leak.

    Apparently there is likely more to the story than the usual means such as unknown objects...

    ReplyDelete
  21. Usually I don't read article on blogs, but I wish to say that this write-up very compelled me to check out and do so! Your writing style has been amazed me. Thank you, quite great post.

    ReplyDelete