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Only after hours of changed topics, audio revisions and very, very slow downloads.:)
I scanned through theological pamphlets. Dr. Harold Hoehner discussed in a Romans Greek Exegesis series that the up-and-outers and down-and-outers, were both without the moral, ethical, righteous standards of God. Persons need the imputed righteousness of Christ to be acceptable to God (Romans 4-5). Brief and non-exhaustive but the point is clear.
Justification.
HOEHNER, HAROLD, ThD, PhD (1985( The Epistle To The Romans, Institute of Theological Studies.
