The Michelin Man
Photo: Michelin in France, official
Mr. Jeff Jenkins 2008
Preface
This article was originally published 20081220, but has had various revisions. It seems to me that I deleted much of the original text and left the entry with images primarily.
According to official Blogger statistics, this article presently ranks #4 on this website's present and very modest, All-Time Most Pageviews list. I have revised and placed versions on academia.edu for the other nine articles in the top ten. I accept the intellectual challenge, of God-willing, making this an academic article that can also be reasonably placed on academia.edu. According to Blogger this article since 2008, has had 7.17 K pageviews. I will leave the fine artwork from Mr. Jeff Jenkins. Revised for an entry on academia.edu 20240528.
The Michelin Man
Back in December 2008, I named myself Michelin Man, as I sort of looked like Michelin Man in my Wilson winter jacket, which I still own. I think it is over 20 years old and still looks new. It has had some repairs. In my humble opinion, I have always been fit. But looking fit, according to modern western standards has been a problem.
When I was young adult, I soon began to put on weight. This despite the fact, I have always exercised regularly and have never consumed large calorie meals. I had played street/ball hockey since I was four years old. I did and still do martial arts. I have been trained by an MMA trainer online, and have used weapons for over twenty years. I walk long distances and barely show any signs of fatigue. For example, I did this for five hours a day in my recent British Isles trip.
Again, as I was a fairly new young adult, when I looked in the mirror, I seemed fine. When I worked out, I seemed fine. But when I saw photos of myself, I was very discouraged as I looked unhealthy. I also soon developed significant fatigue during working on my two academic, course work degrees. Eventually I was diagnosed with sleep apnea which explained issues I had with slower metabolism and weight gain, at least to an extent.
My seven key approaches at countering the effects of sleep apnea.
1 CPAP
For treatment, with medical advice, I first tried CPAP, but that gave me a suffocating feeling and was abandoned within six months, seems to me. Besides the suffocating feeling, I am frankly, also a very particular sleeper in regards to anything on my face while trying to sleep. It worked horribly for me.
Cited
'CPAP Machine
A CPAP (continuous positive airway pressure) machine is one of the most common treatments for sleep apnea. It keeps your airways open while you sleep so you can receive the oxygen you need for optimal function. CPAP machines can significantly improve sleep quality and reduce your risk for a number of health issues, including heart disease and stroke.'
Cited
'What is a CPAP machine?
A CPAP (continuous positive airway pressure) machine is used in the treatment of sleep apnea. This device delivers continuous pressurized air through tubing into a mask that you wear while you sleep.
What is a CPAP machine used for?
CPAP machines are used to treat both obstructive and central sleep apnea. In both disorders, your breathing is interrupted during the sleep cycle. This can occur hundreds of times in a single night, leading to a lack of oxygen and a higher risk for high blood pressure, heart disease, stroke, diabetes and other health concerns. A CPAP machine helps keep your airways open by delivering continuous air through your nose and mouth.'
References from this referenced website
Bloch KE. Alternatives to CPAP in the treatment of the obstructive sleep apnea syndrome (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16741848/). Swiss Medicine Weekly. 2006 Apr 29;136(17-18):261-7. Accessed 11/09/2021.
Bodington R, Johnson O, Carveth-Johnson P, Faruqi S. Travel with CPAP machines: how frequent and what are the problems (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29232460/)? Journal of Travel Medicine. 2018 Jan 1;25(1). Accessed 11/09/2021.
Iftikhar IH, Bittencourt L, Youngstedt SD, et al. Comparative efficacy of CPAP, MADs, exercise-training, and dietary weight loss for sleep apnea: a network meta-analysis (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28215266/). Sleep Medicine. 2017 Feb;30:7-14. Accessed 11/09/2021.
Lim DC, Pack AI. Obstructive Sleep Apnea: Update and Future (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27732789/). Annual Review of Medicine. 2017 Jan 14;68:99-112. Accessed 11/09/2021.
Sánchez AI, Martínez P, Miró E, Bardwell WA, Buela-Casal G. CPAP and behavioral therapies in patients with obstructive sleep apnea: effects on daytime sleepiness, mood, and cognitive function (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19201228/). Sleep Medicine Review. 2009 Jun;13(3):223-33. Accessed 11/09/2021.
Wickwire EM, Bailey MD, Somers VK, Srivastava MC, Scharf SM, Johnson AM, et al. CPAP adherence reduces cardiovascular risk among older adults with obstructive sleep apnea (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33141315/). Sleep and Breathing. 2020 Nov 3. Accessed 11/09/2021.
End of References
Result:
The machine kept me from sleeping.
CPAP was out...a legal form of torture and sleep deprivation.
2 Dental appliance
Next I tried a dental appliance from Klearway.
Cited
'Klearway™ is a fully-adjustable oral appliance used for the treatment or snoring and mild to moderate Obstructive Sleep Apnea. Fabricated of thermoactive acrylic, KlearwayTM becomes pliable for easy insertion and confirms securely to the dentition for an excellent fit while significantly decreasing soft tissue and tooth discomfort. Small increments of forward lower jaw advancement are initiated by the patient under the direction of a dentist and this helps avoid rapid jaw movements that can cause significant patient discomfort. Once warmed under hot water and inserted, the acrylic resin hardens as it cools to body temperature and firmly affixes itself to both arches. Lateral and vertical jaw movement is permitted which enables the patent to yawn, swallow, and drink water without dislodging the appliance. THE KLEARWAY™ APPLIANCE FOR THE TREATMENT OF SNORING AND OBSTRUCTIVE SLEEP APNEA'
References from this referenced website
UBC SLEEP APNEA DENTAL CLINIC 2199 Wesbrook Mall Vancouver, BC V6T 1Z3 Canada Phone: (604) 822-5775 Fax: (604) 822-3562 This clinic was established by Dr. Alan A. Lowe but all patient care is overseen by Dr. F. Almeida. Specialty Clinic located in Room 161 on the Ground Floor of the Faculty of Dentistry, J B MacDonald building, 2199 Wesbrook Mall adjacent to the University Hospital. Clinic Hours: The clinic is held only on selected bi-monthly Wednesday afternoons. Tuan Le, Clinical Research Manager, can be reached at 604-822-3750 for further information and to arrange appointments. (E-mail: tuan.le@ubc.ca )
End of References
Result:
I could not sleep with the dental appliance, and I would spit the appliance out of my mouth several times during sleep. The device kept me from sleeping.
The dental appliance was out...
Note, that I did try the appliance through the UBC, Sleep apnea dental clinic.
3 UPPP
I have had my tonsils and uvula removed with the UPPP surgery.
Cited
'Uvulopalatopharyngoplasty (UPPP) is surgery to open the upper airways by taking out extra tissue in the throat. It may be done alone to treat mild obstructive sleep apnea or snoring or with other procedures to treat moderate obstructive sleep apnea (OSA).
Description
UPPP removes soft tissue at the back of the throat. This includes: All or part of the uvula (the soft flap of tissue that hangs down at the back of the mouth). Parts of the soft palate and tissue at the sides of the throat. Tonsils and adenoids, if they are still there. Why the Procedure Is Performed Your health care provider may recommend this surgery if you have mild OSA. Try lifestyle changes first, such as weight loss or changing your sleep position. Most experts recommend trying to use CPAP, nasal expanding strips, or an oral device to treat OSA first, before considering surgery. Your provider may recommend this surgery to treat severe snoring, even if you do not have OSA. Before you decide about this surgery: See if weight loss helps your snoring. Consider how important it is to you to treat snoring. The surgery does not work for everyone. Make sure your insurance will pay for this surgery. If you do not also have OSA, your insurance may not cover the surgery. Sometimes, UPPP is done along with other more invasive surgeries to treat severe OSA.'
References from this referenced website
Katsantonis GP. Classic uvulopalatopharyngoplasty. In: Friedman M, Jacobowitz O, eds. Sleep Apnea and Snoring. 2nd ed. Philadelphia, PA: Elsevier; 2020:chap 32.
Qaseem A, Holty JE, Owens DK, et al; Clinical Guidelines Committee of the American College of Physicians. Management of obstructive sleep apnea in adults: a clinical practice guideline from the American College of Physicians. Ann Intern Med. 2013;159(7):471-483. PMID: 24061345 pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24061345/.
Sarber KM, Lam DJ, Ishman SL. Sleep apnea and sleep disorders. In: Flint PW, Francis HW, Haughey BH, et al, eds. Cummings Otolaryngology: Head and Neck Surgery. 7th ed. Philadelphia, PA: Elsevier; 2021:chap 15.
Version Info
Last reviewed on: 6/4/2023 Reviewed by: Josef Shargorodsky, MD, MPH, Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, Baltimore, MD. Also reviewed by David C. Dugdale, MD, Medical Director, Brenda Conaway, Editorial Director, and the A.D.A.M. Editorial team.
End of references
Results:
The UPPP surgery has likely significantly, declined the results of sleep apnea, improved my weight loss and overall health.
4 Rhinoplasty
Cited
'Rhinoplasty (RIE-no-plas-tee) is surgery that changes the shape of the nose. The reason for rhinoplasty may be to change the appearance of the nose, improve breathing or both.
The upper part of the structure of the nose is bone. The lower part is cartilage. Rhinoplasty can change bone, cartilage, skin or all three. Talk with your surgeon about whether rhinoplasty is appropriate for you and what it can achieve.
Your other facial features, the skin on your nose and what you would like to change are considered when planning the procedure. If you're a candidate for rhinoplasty, the surgeon will develop a personal plan for you.'
References from this referenced website
Rhinoplasty: Nose surgery. American Society of Plastic Surgeons. https://www.plasticsurgery.org/cosmetic-procedures/rhinoplasty. Accessed Dec. 4, 2022. Nasal surgery: Fixing form and function. American Academy of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery. https://www.enthealth.org/be_ent_smart/nasal-surgery-fixing-form-and-function/. Accessed Dec. 4, 2022.
Septoplasty: Deviated septum correction. American Society of Plastic Surgeons. https://www.plasticsurgery.org/reconstructive-procedures/septoplasty. Accessed Dec. 4, 2022.
Flint PW, et al., eds. Rhinoplasty. In: Cummings Otolaryngology: Head & Neck Surgery. 7th ed. Elsevier; 2021. https://www.clinicalkey.com. Accessed Dec. 4, 2022.
Nose surgery. The Aesthetic Society. https://www.theaestheticsociety.org/procedures/head-face/nose-surgery. Accessed Dec. 6, 2022.
Townsend CM Jr, et al. Plastic surgery. In: Sabiston Textbook of Surgery: The Biological Basis of Modern Surgical Practice. 21st ed. Elsevier; 2022. https://www.clinicalkey.com. Accessed Dec. 6, 2022.
AskMayoExpert. Rhinoplasty. Mayo Clinic; 2021.
Rubin JP, et al. Open technique rhinoplasty. In: Plastic Surgery, Volume 2: Aesthetic Surgery. 4th ed. Elsevier; 2018. https://www.clinicalkey.com. Accessed Dec. 6, 2022.
End of references
Results:
The Rhinoplasty surgery has likely significantly, declined the results of sleep apnea, improved my weight loss and overall health.
5 CoolSculpting
Cited
'CoolSculpting is the brand name for a fat-freezing method that aims to get rid of stubborn fat in certain parts of your body. The method is called cryolipolysis. The FDA approved it in 2010. Scientists came up with the idea for cryolipolysis by studying what happens to fat during frostbite. Fat freezes at a higher temperature than skin. The cryolipolysis device cools your fat to a temperature that destroys it while leaving your skin and other tissues unharmed.'
References from referenced website
American Society of Aesthetic Plastic Surgery: "Does fat freezing yield results similar to liposuction?"
Mayo Clinic: "New fat-reduction treatment leads to positive results,” “Liposuction.”
American Society of Plastic Surgeons: "Nonsurgical Fat Reduction: What is Cryolipolysis?"
Coolsculpting.com: "Clinical Information." “You’ve Got Questions? We’ve Got Answers.” Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery: "Cryolipolysis for fat reduction and body contouring: safety and efficacy of current treatment paradigms."
Elase: “How Much Does CoolSculpting Cost?”
MedlinePlus: “Deoxycholic acid injection.”
Advanced Dermatology: “CoolSculpting Fat Freezing Procedure.”
Cleveland Clinic: “Does Fat Freezing and Non-Surgical Body Sculpting Work,” “Abdominoplasty (Tummy Tuck),” Fat Freezing (Cryolipolysis)
JAMA Dermatology: “Paradoxical Adipose Hyperplasia After Cryolipolysis.”
Wolters Kluwer Health: “Complication of 'fat freezing' procedure may be more common than thought.”
Aesthetic Surgery Journal: “A Multicenter Evaluation of Paradoxical Adipose Hyperplasia Following Cryolipolysis for Fat Reduction and Body Contouring: A Review of 8658 Cycles in 2114 Patients.”
End of references
Result:
After I had the procedure (s), two nurses and the administrator told me I actually did not have much stomach fat. As I was told by my GP years earlier, I have a lot of stomach muscle. But, I will take what I can get as far as any improvements to health and appearance.
6 Neck Liposuction
Cited
'Neck contouring creates a firmer, smoother and more refined appearance to the neck and chin. Even without making any other changes to the face, improving a thick, wrinkled or sagging neck can dramatically improve one’s appearance, helping a patient look years younger or even as though he or she has lost weight. Neck contouring can also help restore balance to facial features by providing a better-defined jawline that frames the rest of the face.'
References with this referenced website
Quatela V, Montague A, Manning JP, Antunes M. Extended Superficial Musculoaponeurotic System Flap Rhytidectomy. Facial Plastic Surgery Clinics of North America. 2020. doi: 10.1016/j.fsc.2020.03.007.
Giampapa VC, Mesa JM. Neck rejuvenation with suture suspension platysmaplasty technique: a minimally invasive neck lift technique that addresses all patients’ anatomic needs. Clinics in Plastic Surgery. 2014. doi: 10.1016/j.cps.2013.09.005.
Gerecci D, Floyd EM, Perkins SW. Incorporating Midline Platysmaplasty with Lateral Superficial Muscular Aponeurotic System Facelifting. Facial Plastic Surgery Clinics of North America. 2020. doi: 10.1016/j.fsc.2020.03.003.
Gonzalez R. Composite platysmaplasty and closed percutaneous platysma myotomy: a simple way to treat deformities of the neck caused by aging. Aesthetic Surgery Journal. 2009. doi: 10.1016/j.asj.2009.04.007.
Fedok FG. Another Look at Platysmaplasty in Facelifting. Facial Plastic Surgery. 2020. doi: 10.1055/s-0040-1714062.
Choi J, Hwang K. Modified Medial and Lateral Platysmaplasty. Journal of Craniofacial Surgery. 2020. doi: 10.1097/SCS.0000000000006515.
Robenpour M, Fuchs Orenbach S, Hadash-Bengad R, Robenpour O, Heller L. The Wide Suture Suspension Platysmaplasty, a revised technique for neck rejuvenation: A retrospective cohort study. Journal of Cosmetic Dermatology. 2021. doi: 10.1111/jocd.14001.
Gonzalez R. Composite platysmaplasty and closed percutaneous platysma myotomy: a simple way to treat deformities of the neck caused by aging. Aesthetic Surgery Journal. 2009. doi: 10.1016/j.asj.2009.04.007.
Robenpour M, Fuchs Orenbach S, Hadash-Bengad R, Robenpour O, Heller L. The Wide Suture Suspension Platysmaplasty, a revised technique for neck rejuvenation: A retrospective cohort study. Journal of Cosmetic Dermatology. 2021. doi: 10.1111/jocd.14001.
End of references
Result:
My surgeon stated that (unlike what I was told in regards to my stomach in that case), my neck actually had a fair amount of fat. I deduced there was roughly a ten percent size reduction, and my surgeon agreed. I now have a significant jawline. The surgeon stated the results were quote 'Fantastic!'. A smaller neck means less effects of sleep apnea as well, and therefore my surgeon stated that I should continue to lose weight.
7 Diet
Result:
The very low carb, no potatoes, no pasta, diet, helps immensely with weight loss. Without the diet, all those medical procedures would not, on their own, diminish the effects of sleep apnea and slower metabolism, enough. The neck surgery being a possible exception, in my humble opinion as a large neck does put pressure on breathing. I suggested this over ten years ago to another Metro Vancouver neck surgeon and was dismissed, in my humble opinion, as a deceived, dishonest, overeater. The one point this surgeon had half right was that I was eating too many potatoes. The truth being that I should not have been digesting the few potatoes I was eating!
Exercise on its own would not work. Diet is key. I walked for example, as noted, 5 hours a day in the British Isles on my recent vacation, and I digest, as always, low calorie amounts, but for whatever reasons, as one of the CoolSculpting nurses suggested, my body has a very negative reaction to certain food. Through my GP and a dietitian, I have figured out that I need to avoid starchy carbohydrates, especially potatoes and traditional pasta. This way I can remain closer to 200 pounds than 300 pounds. I am very muscular, so fit does not equal thin, but God-willing, I aim for as fit looking as possible.
By God's grace and mercy, I appear to be winning on this issue now...
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Mr. Jeff Jenkins 2008
Fine images from Mr. Jeff Jenkins, a friend and fine artist from Florida, USA.
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The spice that will keep you grinning even when you are being choked out!
ReplyDeleteYes, and the spice may choke one out if he/she is not careful.
ReplyDeletePerhaps a Christian's personal code of ethics with regards to the Bible and to the State:
ReplyDelete"Love Your Neighbor as Yourself"
Could this mean that if my neighbor was threatened with harm by another person that I should by obligation and love come to the rescue physically?
-Lone Ranger-
Quite possibly, Anon, perhaps if a police officer is not present and the situation is urgent.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if Rick's secret spice is like pepper spray. Simply blow a handful in your opponents eyes before you put the choke hold on him!
ReplyDelete-Spice of Life-
I am certain it tastes good with food and would make a fine pepper spray.
ReplyDeleteRight, Rick?
Does anybody know if Marvel Comics released a comic entitled:
ReplyDelete"The Kingpin vs the Michelin Man?"
-Betting on the Kingpin-
I think the Michelin Man would make a good superhero.
ReplyDeleteIf I order ten of those, will you receive a kick back? And, can I be the Govenor of Greater Vancouver and the western Fraser Valley?
ReplyDeleteThat's how they do it in Chicago.
No kick back, Jim. You might get a tasty choke out.
ReplyDeleteRuss;)
Hmmm?
ReplyDeleteMe thinks a Kingpin may just bounce off Michelin man.
Larry E.
Larry, I was the best man at a wedding in the UK in 2004.
ReplyDeleteI was asked by the Groom's father to ask a few of the drunk guests to leave.
I went up to one of the men that was probably fifteen years older than me and he stated (paraphrased):
'I will walk out of the tent immediately.
When I saw you do the speech and turn around I could not believe how big that bas****s back was.'
LOL.
Thanks, Larry.
Origins of the Michelin Man
ReplyDeleteI like the red eyes.
ReplyDeletePerhaps the Michelin Man was actually inspired by
ReplyDeletealiens who visited France...
From Chucky's "Origin of the Michelin Man" link:
ReplyDelete"His feats of incredible strength are matched by none, and his legendary tales make Sylvester Stallone look like Pee Wee Herman."
So is that why you're relating yourself to the Michelin Man, Russ?
"In Wikipedia's revisionist record, the origins of the Michelin Man show the murderous past of an out of control robot on a rampage."
- AND -
"Those who have crossed The Michelin Man and attempted to defraud or defile his name have often been reported missing shortly afterwards."
I sure hope THOSE ARE not why!
I love the post. I will reply more later, I am busy today and the next few days with the holidays.
ReplyDeleteWho is the guy with the smoke coming out of his nose and what were/are his thoughts on the happiness? rick b
Again from Chucky's link:
ReplyDelete"The Michelin Man was created in 1898 by a crazed German hermit named Berthold Heinz-Dieter who lived in a junkyard. Berthold could not stand to touch another human's skin, so he lurked in his junkyard every day, creating crude robots fashioned from chunks of metal and mud. One day an unannounced tire truck dumped off a load of used tires into his lot, falling upon the metal framework for a robot he had previously created to smash in the windows of his neighbor's house. A chemical reaction soon took place and, energized by a strike of lightning, this robot literally "came to life" and immediately "murdered" Berthold. Unleashed upon the public, the deadly robot roamed the wilderness and survived by murdering rabbits, bears, trees, lions, hats, mountains, and other stuff that lives in Germany's woods. He was captured during the US defeat of German forces at Ruhr Valley on April 1st, 1945, and treated as a prisoner of war."
Wow...it looks like the Michelin Man may be more than The Kingpin can handle.
I think it might take Chuck Norris to handle that Michelin Man.
ReplyDeleteWho is the guy with the smoke coming out of his nose and what were/are his thoughts on the happiness? rick b
ReplyDeleteHis name is John D. Coffee and he says, and I quote, "This is the best dad-burn stuff I ever tasted in mah whole entire life! This stuff'll getcha goin! Man, I put it on just about everything I eat! Dog-gonnit, this is good stuff! It'll wake ya up in the mornin, that's for DANG sure!"
Seriously, though, it's just an image I found on the Internet.
But if that guy really did try "Happiness," I bet those are the exact words he would use! ;)
'Perhaps the Michelin Man was actually inspired by
ReplyDeletealiens who visited France...'
Thanks, Chuck.
I am no expert, but I find it suspicious that so many of these alien sightings took place after World War Two.
Some events may be explained by post war human experimental aircraft, and some supernaturally as in the occult.
'So is that why you're relating yourself to the Michelin Man, Russ?'
ReplyDeleteNope, because of my looks baby, my looks.
Russ;)
Chuck Norris would have to hope his fancy kicks do not bounce off the Michelin Man!
ReplyDeleteThanks Rick, and thanks to Jeff for answering Rick.
ReplyDeleteRuss
Hi Russ.
ReplyDeleteMate I thought Melbourne was cold in winter. It real serious "cold" in your neck of the woods.
Have a holiday from the books mate. Please don't take offense but by the look of the antics you need a break. To much study makes the brain go mushy.
Blessings.
Russell from down under.
My brain is 'mushy' from too much walking back and forth in the mushy snow.
ReplyDeleteIt is too bad you are so far away.
Russ:)
Great post Russ.
ReplyDeleteGrowing up, I was teased for not having a neck, But know I take pride in the fact I have no neck since it is almost impossible to choke me.
I had black belts with 20 years experince and won gold medals for their skills find it so hard to choke me, they did not even try.
I like the choke for many reasons.
I can choke you from most any postion, Front, back, me on the bottom, you on the bottom, from the Gaurd, from the back, with or with out a a shirt, Etc.
Another nice thing about the choke is, You can submit your friend or foe with out hurting them, like, your not breaking and bones, or slamming them or your self into the ground.
of all the chokes, I think the guillotine choke is the most painful. they are all painful to some degree, but the 'The guillotine choke is the worst.
I favor the Choke hold also because, more times than not, guys tend to think they have Knock out power, or they want to simply trade blows, and sadly they do not have enough skill to do either correctly, so they will lose a fight, but since many think I will trade blows, they will never see a choke coming.
Here is an example of what I am talking about, If I was standing in front of a a person that I knew was going to attack me, I would not be looking them over thinking, that guy is Big, or strong, Or can he knock me out,
I am looking at, what is he wearing, A loose shirt, a jacket with a loose fit, or something I can grab, If it looks even some what loose, not skin tight fit, I am thinking, this guys gonna go to sleep.
I have had many friends ask me to show this style on them and I have more than proved it to many a guy.
It is kinda hard to explain, but I grab the shirt or coat with both hands, since I am right handed, my right hand pulls their shirt across their throat, then my left hand pulls the shirt down at about a 45 degree angle.
The one that pulls down at the 45 degree angle tightens the shirt, but I add more more thing to it to make it even better.
I start pushing them backwards to the point of running, I do this because, not only are they getting Chocked, but a little panic creeps in to a person who is not a trained fighter, and even people with some experince can panic a little because they are, getting choked and being pushed backwards, and no one has eyes in the back of their heads and cannot see if they might trip.
I have practiced this move so much, I almost always pull it off in surprise fashion and about the only time it fails, is if the person is wearing a cheap tee shirt and it gets ripped off.
I have many chokes in my arisnel and I have choked out so many friends that roll with me, that they remove their shirts to give them a chance. I can choke you with out it, but it is easier with a shirt or coat.
I will add a few happiness photos to my blog, but I need to get a few food posts up first. thanks and merry Christmas. Rick b
Thanks, Rick.
ReplyDeleteI agree chokes can be very useful, and I too have the 'no neck'. I work on getting out of chokes as much as practicing them. I work mainly on bare chokes which will likely take place after strikes, including elbow strikes and or a takedown.
Like all good moves there is a time and place for them.
My friends have noticed the improvements I have made since for the most part abandoning much of karate for weapons, judo and grappling training, combined with hook punches, elbow strikes, low kicks and more reasonable techniques for street fighting.
I am never going to fight in a ring and so why train for it?
Merry Christmas, Rick.
Russ:)
Russ said,
ReplyDeleteI am never going to fight in a ring and so why train for it?
I am told old, I will be 39 in a few months, but at least it is fun to practice. Rick b
I am never going to fight in a ring and so why train for it?
ReplyDeleteI respect your abilities, Rick.
Thanks, Rick.
I state that in regard to my own training.
I am not aware of how much of your training is in the ring or not, I am sure at least much of what you do is applicable on the street.
After two years of karate classes I realized that much of it would not be applicable or very useable on the street.
As we have discussed previously on your old food blog, after being bottled in Manchester in 2000, even though I technically won the fights on points against 2-3 guys, I realized that I needed to take more risks, fight less defensively and change the priority of some techniques.
Contrary to what I was taught, karate punches, although more difficult to block are really more like jabs in comparison to more powerful hook punches that are easier to parry but more deadly when used properly in the head and neck especially.
My side kicks are powerful but too easy to see coming. The front kick is a good jab kick at best.
Dealing with a knife (or gun)attack with side kicks is somewhat effective, but I underestimated the importance of grabbing a hold of the knife hand after the first strike if possible and also the risk of being knifed in the leg.
Choke holds and guillotine holds which can be used, as you know standing up or on the ground, are more likely to subdue someone than are roundhouse and side kicks.
My roundhouse elbows strikes are almost as powerful as my hook punches and are excellent for close in strikes both on and off the ground. These types of elbow strikes have apparently been legislated against in some tournament fighting and I can understand why. They are also very good for striking someone trying to tie one up and take one to the ground by taking away kicks and punches as in crowding and taking away extended arms kicks and punches.
I live and learn like you are Rick, and keep improving as we do with areas of Christian studies.
Basically, a few years ago I emailed a former professional American assassin for US government and he basically told me what I had figured out, and I now reason my approach to street fighting is better than prior to 2000 and my three friends that have light sparred with me have noticed an improvement in my abilities.
The link I sent you the other day has a similar approach it seems.
Russ:)
I am not flexable, If I do any kicks, it will be after the person in on the ground, or to the groin, or low leg kicks.
ReplyDeleteSome people would say I am a dirty fighter, I would use some of my grappling or Judo throws in a street fight, But out side of that, I will grab your face with both hands push my thumbs into your eyes while holding your head and will not stop till I feel your eyes pop and blood covers my hands.
Sounds grafic, sounds sick and twisted, Does not sound like something a Christian would say or do? I will tell you what, I will do whatever I need to do to survive, it is either me or you, and I can tell you, it is going to be you top the best of my abilty.
I am the kinda guy that shows no mercy and does not play nice if you threaten me or my family. but that is just me. Rick b
Basically, we have a similar approach and assassins will tell one that is what must be done on the street.
ReplyDeleteI have moved my training in that direction...factoring in weapons.
Thanks, Rick.
Russ:)
I understand the need for weapons, But I My self hate them and never train with them, But thats not to say, I would not stop and pick up a Pipe or Brick, Or bottle if needed. Rick b
ReplyDeleteUnderstood.
ReplyDeleteOnce I was bottled my notion of 'fair fight' was abandoned. NOW I WILL ALWAYS ATTEMPT TO OBEY THE LAW, but I had fought well enough not to get injured by punches, and to kick a guy hard enough that he ran away and eventually came back, and punch the other two guys in the face making their heads move. I also kept my distance in order to not get stabbed with a potential knife, or screwdriver, and was still bottled. This is why my punches did not do more serious damage as I would not turn my back on the three young men. I would not move in.
It was a mistake and I now practice to be much more deadly, and quickly.
This is obvious to my sparring partners, and I thank God for it.
But, it is a risk.
My thoughts are this...
With our Christian lifestyle we are not bar hoppers and club 'goers' for the most part. If persons such as Jeff, Rick, or I are attacked it will probably be on the street or in the house/garage, by more than one person, and quite likely they will have a weapon or will resort to using one.
Unless thugs are knocked out, outnumbered, or faced with police, they will not accept 'losing on points'. Now if the police would have arrived five minutes sooner I would have simply and only won the conflict on points, but I shall never, God willing, take such a chance again.
I am not, if I can help it going to simply trust in martial arts against multiple persons that may be armed.
Hey Jeff, what do you think of a fight scene featuring some of us blogging against a super villain team of your choosing? Lol.
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ReplyDeleteSix random things for this blog and also thekingping68:
ReplyDelete1. I have been nicknamed thekingpin and the Michelin Man.
2. I have a collection of Rush and Mahavishnu Orchestra unofficial CDs.
3. I saw the final game of the 1982 Stanley Cup Final live.
4. I have viewed a Quarter-Final match in the UEFA Champions League.
5. I walk in the snow, even when it is up to -17 C with wind chill.
6. I have been listening to different kinds of music on You Tube.
1.I hate the band Rush, UUUGGGGHHHHH, They suck so bad.
ReplyDelete2.My nick name given to me for my style and how I witness is the Hammer,
3.Today is U.F.C. 92, I have seen everyone and will see this one tonight.
4.I love the song, Divine romance by Phil wickman, Check it out and tell me what you think.
5.I hate snow and cold.
6.I love super HHHHOOOOTTTTT food.
Their I matched your 6. Rick b
Thanks, Rick.
ReplyDeleteI think Rush 74-82 has some of the finest music ever. I also like Mahavishnu Orchestra 71-73 quite a bit.
Whether one likes these bands or not, there is no doubt complexity and innovativeness displayed.
With these bands I do see some parallels with theology. Many people will not like the most complex and abstract theologians and will prefer the ones that are easier to understand, but I do not think that this necessarily takes away from the quality of the teaching which is at times difficult to appreciate. The same could be said for advanced math, science and fictional literature, where I am no expert.
I am generally not a fan of heavy metal or death metal, but like progressive rock, jazz fusion, art rock, and classical.
I generally prefer boxing to UFC as watching guys grapple is not all that interesting for the most part, in my opinion, although it is good to pick up some of the techniques.
My favourite sport to view is soccer/football.
Russ:)
Hey Russ,
ReplyDeleteI'm back and trying to get back into the swing of things. I wish you the best for the coming year! Good luck on your project and up-coming job search. Thanks for all the great comments on my blog. I look forward to a full year of growth through your ministry here and at Satire.
God Bless!
GGM
BTW--Mrs. Moogly used to agree with Rick about Rush until she saw them play. Well, she still doesn't particularly like their music, but she certainly appreciates their ability. That's a good thing...I may have had to trade her in if she didn't! :-)
Thanks, Jason.
ReplyDeleteGood thoughts concerning Rush. I think they are tremendous players although I do not like their 90s and 2000s music near as much as their earlier material.
It is so difficult to find a good Christian woman, you should hang on to Mrs. Googly.
Russ;)
Hi Russ,
ReplyDeleteI liked the possible explaination that the Michelin Man was inspired by aliens from France. That's probably true anyway. (Smile)
Vengeance is part of the human condition of sin and lack of faith. It is difficult to trust the Lord to even things up or to take care of things.
Your Christmas pictures reminded me of Jim's and my first Christmas married. We went all over south Richmond taking pictures of lights. We somehow wandered from homes to a commercial nursery. After being there for a while, we realized that we were trespassing and could get into trouble. Even though nothing happened, I felt rescued. (Smile again)
Blessings,
Vicki
'We somehow wandered from homes to a commercial nursery. After being there for a while, we realized that we were trespassing and could get into trouble. Even though nothing happened, I felt rescued. (Smile again)'
ReplyDeleteVengeance does belong to the Lord, I agree.
From your photos, I think the land owner would have taken one look at you and thought she must be a Christian or Mormon or something...she and that guy are just lost.;)
Russ:)
Hey Jeff, what do you think of a fight scene featuring some of us blogging against a super villain team of your choosing? Lol.
ReplyDeleteSounds like an interesting idea for a graphic. I have not been blogging or even on Facebook or e-mail much these past few days, and have been, oddly enough, very busy at work with a lot of graphics to do. Hopefully, in a few days, or when I get a chance, I can look into doing some sort of graphic for that idea.
With our Christian lifestyle we are not bar hoppers and club 'goers' for the most part. If persons such as Jeff, Rick, or I are attacked it will probably be on the street or in the house/garage, by more than one person, and quite likely they will have a weapon or will resort to using one.
When I was very young, a policeman pulled a gun on me, and I foolishly ran and hid.
My youngest brother used to have a violent temper, to the point where his entire body would shake, and he was into drugs and theft, as well as getting into daily fights at school (he carried brass knuckles in his pants). He held a gun and also a knife on both me and my other brother at various times over the years when we were young, and he would be in such a furious rage during those times, that resistance might have caused him to pull the trigger. I concentrated on talking him out of it instead of trying to use physical force.
A full-grown male Rottweiller once grabbed my arm and I just relaxed. I had never felt anything so powerful in my life, and I know he could have torn my arm out of the socket; I knew I was helpless to resist, so I just completely relaxed, and he soon let my arm go. The same thing happened when some stray dogs had formed a pack and came at me; at first, I instinctively got into a karate stance, but when they surrounded me from all sides, I knew that was useless, so I just dropped my arms and relaxed, and they soon walked away. Another time, I did fight off an attacking dog using nunchaku, but even then, though I don't remember the exact details, I think I had to finally give up and back off, because I could see that the dog might be too fast for me. If I remember, the dog eventually stopped trying to attack me when I stopped showing signs of aggression.
I once had a gang member threaten me with a gun (it was after midnight on a beach, and his gang was there with him). I basically acted like I could care less, and I walked on by, staying very casual and basically ignoring him, and he soon lost interest.
Another time, I was walking past a bar at night, and I overheard two guys discussing whether I had any money or not, and whether they should jump me and rob me.
In all those cases, I'm sure the Lord was protecting me, but I can also see that, if I had shown even the slightest fear or panic to any of those people or those dogs, the outcome may have been different.
I have fought people with knives twice, and both times was able to disarm them with a crescent kick. The first time, I at first tried to grab his knife-hand, and almost got myself slashed doing so.
I have sparred against 2 martial artists at once, and that was very difficult. I also wrestled against 2 guys at once, and at first I was able to get them both into holds at the same time, until they started communicating with each other and using teamwork.
Submission holds are excellent, and a good grappler can theoretically beat a boxer or stand-up fighter who knows little or nothing about grappling, if they can take the person to the ground. But grappling (on the ground) with someone who has a knife or gun can be very dangerous and even, of course, fatal. Grappling is not nearly as effective if you are fighting multiple opponents. Also, a grappler needs to watch out for the other person using dirty moves: biting, pinching, groin-grabbing, eye-gouging, cheek-gouging, etc. (If the UFC allowed those things, grapplers would either not be at such an advantage on the ground, or they would have to revise some of their techniques.) Kickboxing (i.e., Muay-Thai) and boxing are very good for stand-up fighting against single opponents; grappling (i.e., Gracie Jiu-jitsu) is excellent for ground fighting against a single opponent; aikido is good for fighting against multiple opponents, especially if they are unarmed. Katas, forms and karate stances are basically useless, other than teaching the basic fundamentals in a class. Generally speaking, street-smarts and awareness of your surroundings can be invaluable.
Before I got saved, I was always fearful that I might get attacked by someone with a knife, or especially with a gun; and I was always trying to anticipate situations, and was always walking around in fear, even though I knew self-defense. I had a fear of being killed. After I got saved, I no longer had that fear. The best protection for a person, or for a person's family, is salvation in Christ. If a person is regenerated, they have nothing to worry about or fear, because they have a happy ending, and in that sense, they are invincible. And if their spouse and children are regenerated, then they need not fear what will happen to them, because they have eternal life promised to them. Sort of like what Obi-wan Kenobi said to Darth Vader: "Strike me down and I will become more powerful than you can ever imagine." Paul said it this way: "For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain."
I read a story about a group of Christian youth who were camping, and were killed in an avalanche or something. When their bodies were found, they each had smiles on their faces. One time I was giving blood, and it was really hot, so (though I hate to admit it) I fainted. The nurse told me that, when I was unconscious, I had "the cutest grin" on my face. I tend to think that was the same reason those Christian campers had smiles on their faces.
"When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory." "Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?" (1 Corinthians 15:54-55)
Excellent points, Jeff.
ReplyDelete'I have fought people with knives twice, and both times was able to disarm them with a crescent kick. The first time, I at first tried to grab his knife-hand, and almost got myself slashed doing so.'
I know the crescent kick and reverse crescent kick myself and they could work against a knife, but I would be concerned about being slashed in the leg and concerned with being stabbed if the kick does not work well enough. I have a side kick which with either leg if landed, could seriously move many persons holding a knife. But, possible problems are having the leg slashed and not having the knife knocked out of the aggressor's hand after the side kick and having to do a 'soft art' defence move anyway.
Plus, the side kick can be seen coming...
I have found in sparring that many of the high kicks are often fairly easy to evade. I work on lower kicks to the knee, leg and groin.
'I have sparred against 2 martial artists at once, and that was very difficult. I also wrestled against 2 guys at once, and at first I was able to get them both into holds at the same time, until they started communicating with each other and using teamwork.'
I have done 3 vs. 1 for real and 2 vs. 1 in sparring.
My conclusion is that the special operations/agents techniques training is the best approach for street/actual fighting. I fought too defensively in my actual case and was bottled even though I won on points, next time I will need to take at least one opponent out quickly with strikes to the eyes, neck, and other sensitive areas.
'Submission holds are excellent, and a good grappler can theoretically beat a boxer or stand-up fighter who knows little or nothing about grappling, if they can take the person to the ground.'
Yes, this is why I have worked on grappling the last few years, although I am primarily a striker. I now basically know what to expect with take downs, choke holds, and locks. About half of my martial arts work is now weapons, grappling and judo.
How to avoid grappling moves is as important and knowing how to do them.
'But grappling (on the ground) with someone who has a knife or gun can be very dangerous and even, of course, fatal.'
Yes. Plus who wants to grapple on concrete? One could hurt themselves doing a technique properly.
'Grappling is not nearly as effective if you are fighting multiple opponents.;
Yes. The thug's buddy hits you while you are on the ground. This has been pointed out on-line in many places.
'Also, a grappler needs to watch out for the other person using dirty moves: biting, pinching, groin-grabbing, eye-gouging, cheek-gouging, etc. (If the UFC allowed those things, grapplers would either not be at such an advantage on the ground, or they would have to revise some of their techniques.)'
A book I study with and use for sparring techniques with Chuck and others is 'Karate's Grappling Methods'. And, I have also read similar concepts on-line. Not only I am trying to learn and practice techniques such as the basic grappling 'guard' and getting out of a mount, but I would NO QUESTION, bite, punch, groin strike, eye gouge, hair pull, and do whatever is needed, including using a WEAPON to avoid getting submitted in an actual fight.
Like Rick, I have 'no neck' and so choking me out would not be easy, but I am not COCKY at all. I need to keep learning.
'aikido is good for fighting against multiple opponents, especially if they are unarmed.'
I have sparred with a friend that is a black belt in aikido.
"When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory." "Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?" (1 Corinthians 15:54-55).
Wise words, Jeff!
Thanks,
Russ
Nice idea with your "Blog Battle Reciprocal Links."
ReplyDeleteI know the crescent kick and reverse crescent kick myself and they could work against a knife, but I would be concerned about being slashed in the leg and concerned with being stabbed if the kick does not work well enough.
Admittedly, I had fast kicks both times I did that (speed which I no longer have). But grabs with your hand (i.e., jiu-jitsu moves) require much more precision, and your hand/arm are not protected as when you are wearing shoes and long pants. It worked very well for me both times. I kicked the forearm, close to the hand, rather than the hand itself.
I have a side kick which with either leg if landed, could seriously move many persons holding a knife.
In the past, I used side kicks successfully against punch attacks, but never tried it against a knife. I could see being stabbed or slashed doing a side kick to the body.
I work on lower kicks to the knee, leg and groin.
Yes, I read long ago (possibly from Bruce Lee) that high kicks (and flying kicks) are mostly for show or competition, and that low kicks (especially knee kicks) are much harder to block, and are much more practical for street fighting.
I'm looking right now at a book I have owned for many years called "Bruce Lee's Fighting Method," by Bruce Lee and M. Uyehara, that has many photos of Bruce Lee demonstrating defenses against various street attacks, including defense against a club, staff, knife or gun, and against multiple opponents, and also defenses from a vulnerable position. The first five defenses he demonstrates use side kicks to the knee. The kick is followed through completely so that it causes the assailant to reel backward (kicking 'through' the knee, to knock him down or break the kneecap), and Lee counterattacks, for example, with multiple hooking and straight punches to the face, keeping the assailant off-balance. In one of the photos, Lee follows through by dragging the assailant backward by his shirt collar and finishes him off with a heel stomp to the face. He also uses eye strikes and groin strikes in the book (as well as elbows and the head). At the beginning of the book, it states that the best defense against a surprise attack is not to be surprised. It also states that "some of the approaches by the attacker may seem irrational. But, as Lee himself said, "There are many irrational people on the street today."
Years ago, I was showing my Philipino instructor the various ways I had learned over the years of getting out of various holds (headlocks, chokes, etc.). When I showed him the various ways I knew of getting out of a simple bear hug from behind, he acted as if I was making it too complicated. He told me to get him in a bear hug, and I did, and all he did was pinch my thigh, hard, and in surprise, I loosened my grip, and he got out. Of course, you would follow up with an actual attack afterwards. As that Bruce Lee book points out, the best defense is the most simple and effective.
Though I have taken classes in knife fighting and Philipino stick fighting, and have trained for many years with the bo, nunchaku, and other weapons (swords, 3-section staff, axe, etc.), I learned that weapons are useless for self-defense unless you are carrying them with you at the time you are attacked. Some people talk about using a stick or something which is lying around when you are attacked, but the chances of being able to grab a weapon you find on the ground while you are being attacked are very slim, I would think. I used to carry a balisong (butterfly knife) with me everywhere, and carry nunchaku with me in the car, but largely because of certain stricter laws now, I no longer do that. If you carry things with you when you go for your walks, great. But if I carry a knife on me here, and it is over a certain length, it is now illegal. I have smaller weapons, such as a Steel Cobra and small steel nunchaku, but they are probably illegal as well (especially the steel nunchaku, which can easily break bones). I brought a large bowie knife with me to work one time, and I was told very sternly to take it home immediately and never bring it back.
'I learned that weapons are useless for self-defense unless you are carrying them with you at the time you are attacked. Some people talk about using a stick or something which is lying around when you are attacked, but the chances of being able to grab a weapon you find on the ground while you are being attacked are very slim, I would think.'
ReplyDeleteYes, thanks Jeff. It is better to carry something useful that is legal on the streets, but even knowing and practicing unarmed weapons defences is far better than not knowing any.
If I would have been prepared for a bottle being thrown the outcome of my 3 vs. 1 fight would have been different.
Russ
If I would have been prepared for a bottle being thrown the outcome of my 3 vs. 1 fight would have been different.
ReplyDeleteThat would be a tough one. If you see it coming, you might be able to duck or dodge or even block it, but if you don't see it, unless you have super-ninja awareness and have been practicing while wearing a blindfold for years so that you are so attuned to your surroundings (or you have Spidey sense or are like Daredevil) that you can even hear the grasshopper at your feet, then you would be in trouble.
I have never had a killer instinct like Rick seems to, so I have used submissiveness to my advantage, as with that Rottweiler and other dogs, or with that gang member.
Although I've done things like cut one guy's lip, broke another guy's thumb, knocked the wind out of someone else, knocked another guy's tooth out, and injured others in various ways (and of course I have gotten hurt myself: bloody noses, split forehead from a spinning back kick, bruised ribs in wrestling, various other bruises in kickboxing, being kicked several feet into the air with a side kick, being thrown into metal chairs with a Judo throw, etc.), I never set out to do those things on purpose. Other guys I have met, however, would not think twice about doing something like that purposely, just for laughs or for the fun of it.
Once, when working out on a bench at a gym, this freakishly-gigantic guy came up to me (who was larger than many professional bodybuilders, and looked the size of the Incredible Hulk) and said that I was using "his bench." Even though I was muscular and in shape then, and knew martial arts, I knew he could break me like a twig, plus he carried a handgun in his gym bag, and was on some serious steroids. I gave him some polite answer (I don't remember what I said), and he said something like, "Lucky for you, because I would have been 'all up in your world.'"
Another time, there was a guy who was an ex-Ranger, and I heard that he would go around and hurt people just for laughs. He found out that I was into martial arts, and he challenged me to a fight. I knew he was a cocky showoff who would seriously hurt someone just for the fun of it, and that he only fought dirty. So I refused.
Both of those guys were the type that you would have to either seriously injure or kill in order to stop them. In cases like that, I will refuse to fight, even to the point of looking like a coward, in order to avoid what very likely would be a very serious and very dangerous fight.
'If I would have been prepared for a bottle being thrown the outcome of my 3 vs. 1 fight would have been different.'
ReplyDeleteI would have been forced to fight more aggressively if I would have factored in being bottled at a distance as a very good possibility.
'I have never had a killer instinct like Rick seems to, so I have used submissiveness to my advantage, as with that Rottweiler and other dogs, or with that gang member.'
I have killer instinct, but in my 3 vs. 1 fight I reasoned that I would be knifed if I got in too close to someone. But, since the thugs would not let me simply win on points I should have factored in being quite possibly attacked by a weapon eventually unless I took out at least one of the thugs.
My mistake, my ignorance, but I do have killer instinct.
'Both of those guys were the type that you would have to either seriously injure or kill in order to stop them. In cases like that, I will refuse to fight, even to the point of looking like a coward, in order to avoid what very likely would be a very serious and very dangerous fight.'
Agreed. The former professional assassin for the US government said the best and first option was to run. But, in Manchester I had nowhere certain to run to.
Russ:)
I,m Just being honest as to who I am and How I think.
ReplyDeleteI Guess to some degree I suppose it is sad to think that as a believer, people who look at me and say, According to how you speak you have Killer instinct.
But yet I cannot change my past or how I grew up. I have a love for the lost and people dying and going to hell, but yet at the same time I will be honest enough to say, If you attack me I will do my best to send you home soon.
Here is a case that really happened here a few months back. A women who had cancer was in the local hospital, The hospital is close to a park and this lady likes to take walks, so she took a walk, saldy it was late at night and the park is is a kind of run down neighborhood.
As she was walking down the park path, 3 teenagers came out from behind a tree, two of the had baseball bats. They beat her silly, she even cried out she was a cancer patient at the local hospital. They beat her so badly the broke her arms and hands,
She covered up her head and the attacked her head. Later they were caught and it turns out they were gang bangers and they thought she was wearing gang colors.
I am not sorry to say this, If I was jumped by guys like that, I really suspect they would kill me, 3 guys, two with bats, I am not that good of a fighter, but I will tell you, I would focus all my effort on one person, and go for his eyes and show no mercy. I would rip out his eyes and then do my best to rip his throat out.
Some believers will say, thats crazy, But If I kill them they will never beat a poor lady with Cancer again. I have a friend who is a State Trooper and he is a Christian, He said he can carry a gun since he is a cop, He said even if he is off duty in street cloths he can carry.
He said he would shoot those guys dead, and I agree, they would be dead. Rick b
'I am not sorry to say this, If I was jumped by guys like that, I really suspect they would kill me, 3 guys, two with bats, I am not that good of a fighter, but I will tell you, I would focus all my effort on one person, and go for his eyes and show no mercy. I would rip out his eyes and then do my best to rip his throat out.'
ReplyDeleteRick, you are simply pointing out the need for self-defence in reality.
Cheers,
Russ:)
1. Self defense must be quick and ruthless. Assuming the worst of an attackers intentions is the better part of valour.
ReplyDelete2. .45 long derringer takes .410 scatter shell. (Outstanding shock effect, direct hit superfluous. Write off a car at 50. ft.)
3. Attitudes attitudes adjusted, no waiting.
Good points, Robert.
ReplyDeleteRuss:)
Though I have been busy with working on school assignments toward a Bachelor of Science degree in Graphic Design, plus work, plus applying for 5 jobs a week (because my job is only part-time and pays less than what I was getting in unemployment pay, so they will pay the difference if I report my hours and continue to apply for other jobs), plus chores and errands, I appreciate your continued (online) friendship and communication, Dr. Murray, and I hope and pray that things are going well for you, and that your hopes, desires and goals will be met, according to God's gracious good will.
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ReplyDeleteThank you my friend, truly a huge help with the blogs. In my prayers.
Blessings
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