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Richard Swinburne (1998) notes that many theists and atheists, due to Plantinga’s (free will defence) work, have accepted the logical problem of evil has been eliminated, and yet the evidential problem remains. Gratuitous evil.
He explains that whether or not the logical problem has been eliminated depends on how it is defined, and this ends up being a debate between certain theists and atheists on what hypothetical state of affairs would mean that God does not logically exist.
Michael Peterson (1982) reasons that Plantinga’s free will defense is sound in regard to the logical problem of evil and can be used to show that God must allow gratuitous evil or deny human free will. Peterson thinks Plantinga’s defense does not succumb to gratuitous evil.
Philosopher Doug Erlandson (1991) writes that theist and anti-theist have been debating the problem of evil for centuries, and the basic differing philosophical assumptions made by the two groups means that the debate shall continue.
Within my PhD work and online I have taken a compatibilist theistic position contrary to that of Plantinga's incomaptibilism, although in agreement with Plantinga on holding to traditional, Biblical Christian theism.
I reason a Reformed theistic, compatibilism reasonably deals with the logical problem of evil and gratuitous evil and the evidential problem of evil; and is more reasonable than incompatibilism.
ERLANDSON, DOUG (1991) ‘A New Perspective on the Problem of Evil’, in Doug Erlandson PhD Philosophy, Reformed.org, Orange County, Covenant Community Church of Orange County.
PETERSON, MICHAEL (1982) Evil and the Christian God, Grand Rapids, Baker Book House.
PETERSON, MICHAEL (1998) God and Evil, Boulder, Colorado, Westview Press.
PETERSON, MICHAEL, WILLIAM HASKER, BRUCE REICHENBACH, AND DAVID BASINGER (1996)(eds.), ‘Introduction: Saint Augustine: Evil is Privation of Good’, in Philosophy of Religion, Oxford, Oxford University Press.
PLANTINGA, ALVIN C. (1977)(2002) God, Freedom, and Evil, Grand Rapids, Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Company.
PLANTINGA, ALVIN C. (1982) The Nature of Necessity, Oxford, Clarendon Press.
PLANTINGA, ALVIN C. (2000) Warranted Christian Belief, Oxford, Oxford University Press.
SWINBURNE, RICHARD (1998) Providence and the Problem of Evil, Oxford, Oxford University Press.
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Took new scarf back to store because it was too tight.
February
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March
Got really excited.....finished jigsaw puzzle in 6 months.....
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April
Trapped on escalator for hours ...
Power went out!!!
May
Tried to make Kool-Aid.....wrong instructions....
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June
Tried to go water skiing.......
Couldn't find a lake with a slope.
July
Lost breast stroke swimming competition.....
Learned later that the other swimmers cheated- they used their arms!!!
August
Got locked out of my car in rain storm.....
Darn car filled up with water because convertible top was open.
September
The capital of California is 'C'.....isn't it???
October
Hate M & M's.....They are so hard to peel.
November
Baked Thanksgiving turkey for 4 1/2 days ...
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December
Couldn't call 911.
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HOW MOSES GOT THE 10 COMMANDMENTS
ReplyDeleteGod went to the Arabs and said,
'I have Commandments for you that will make your lives better.'
The Arabs asked, 'What are Commandments?'
And the Lord said, 'They are rules for living.'
'Can you give us an example?'
'Thou shall not kill.'
'Not kill? We're not interested..'
So He went to the Blacks and said, 'I have Commandments.'
The Blacks wanted an example, and the Lord said,
'Honour thy Father and Mother.'
'Father? We don't know who our fathers are.
We're not interested.'
Then He went to the Mexicans and said,
'I have Commandments.'
The Mexicans also wanted an example, and the Lord said 'Thou shall not steal.'
'Not steal? We're not interested.'
Then He went to the French and said,
'I have Commandments.'
The French too wanted an example and the Lord said, 'Thou shall not commit adultery.'
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Finally, He went to the Jews and said,
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Contextualization has to be a good idea. Use language that people can understand. Too many seminary types use seminary language while they preach, but they find that no one knows what they’re talking about, so they change (some never do).
ReplyDeleteBut bad theologians gave that word a bad name, when they thought the way to go was, if people don’t know or believe what you’re talking about, just stop talking about it. That was why so much came off our Christian table: Jesus' virgin birth, ascension, even resurrection (they said it happened but no newspaper could have reported it). I guess they got through to people but not with the gospel.
My friend Harvie Conn rescued the word and the thing, mostly by inventing his own brandnew word, de-contextualization. Is there something in your own faith that’s not in the Word—prune it! Is the something in the Word that you leave out—put it in! You too can be captured by your own culture, not just those foreigners, the ones who need our missions work.
I’m thinking that at the top of our own de-context list is: do we pray about everything? There are so many other options: see the doctor, see the psychiatrist, see the welfare office, ask around. I’ve done sermons with: 12 hours diligent work, 15 minutes prayer. I don’t recommend that.
Now the World Reformed Fellowship gives us a new Statement of Faith. Do you think we need it? We’ve got the Swiss Second Helvetic, German Heidelberg, Scots Westminster (31K words). But you know, they all left out what is big in the Word, demons and what to do about them. We know why—do you know anyone who has a demon problem? We’ve heard of folks who knock people down and take credit for handling demons, but we’re doubtful.
So do we just keep the demons out of our faith, even though they’re in the Bible? If we keep on doing that, our next step is to agree with Bultmann and his agenda of sanitizing the Bible. We have to do better, but how?
Let’s look at that WRF Statement. It’s our faith for the world today, the only truly global Reformed statement we’ve ever had! Look at this from its section II. Evil and sin:
ReplyDelete. . .The fallen angels are called demons and are led by Satan. They oppose the work of God and seek to frustrate his purposes. Nevertheless God remains sovereign over the powers of evil and uses their actions to forward his plan of salvation. Demons are not to be worshipped or served in any way. Their activity lies behind false religions and Satan blinds human minds to the truth. . .
Human beings join forces with supernatural agents who have brought about such horrific evils as genocide, the abuse of power, world wars, various types of terrorism, psychopathic killing, human trafficking, drug abuse and violence of all kinds. Without underestimating and undermining the significance of human beings, such outrageous forms of evil are propagated and orchestrated by demonic forces with the result that human beings can be divided, destroyed and brought below the level of animals in their thoughts and behaviour. Evil is not only directed towards the destruction of creation and the image of God in the descendants of Adam and Eve, but also towards suppression of the church and the truth of God. Though demons do not multiply, nor can they be destroyed by humans, we are still called to resist the evil, injustice, oppression and violence that the demons use for their purposes, while awaiting and praying for the return of Jesus Christ, who will bring an end to all these things. . .
I wish I knew who gets the credit for those biblical insights, I imagine folks from Africa or maybe India? WRF is the World Reformed Fellowship, right? I know we needed to hear that.
My appetite is whetted. Here's much more from WRF International Director Flip Buys: http://wrfnet.org/articles/2015/04/wrf-international-director-dr-p-j-buys-presents-biblical-and-reformed-perspective#.VTklH61VhBc
I can't think of adding to that, it's all there. I am reminded of what James K. A. Smith has been telling us, that our world used to be enchanted, there was more in it than what we could see or measure. I take that also to mean, prayer to the sovereign Lord through Christ our Mediator is not at all foolish, but the wisest thing we can do in this blessed enchanted world of ours.
We'll need much help in our newly-found demon ministry, at least I do. Bring Flip here, to model for us? Until that happens, our prayer can go like this: O Lord, love and care for our sister, help her to again think and act clearly, for your glory. Just take away from her now everything standing in her way, physical and demonic and whatever. In the Mediator's strong name, Amen.
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accidentally runs over her favorite dog, a Corgi, crushing it to a pulp.
He gets out of his Range Rover and sits down on the grass, totally
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The whole world is against him and now his mother will go ballistic.
Suddenly he notices a lamp, half-buried in the ground. He digs it up,
polishes it, and immediately a Genie appears. "You have freed me from
a thousand of years of imprisonment", says the Genie. “As a reward I
shall grant you one wish."
"Well," says the Prince, "I have all the material things I need, but
let me show you this dog."
They walk over to the splattered remains of the dog. "Do you think you
could bring this dog back to life for me?", the Prince asks.
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KING ARTHUR AND THE OLD UGLY WOMAN
ReplyDeleteYoung King Arthur was ambushed and imprisoned by the monarch of a neighboring kingdom. The monarch could have killed him but was moved by Arthur's youth and ideals. So, the monarch offered him his freedom, as long as he could answer a very difficult question. Arthur would have a year to figure out the answer and, if, after a year, he still had no answer, he would be put to death.
The question?...What do women really want? Such a question would perplex even the most knowledgeable man, and to young Arthur, it seemed an impossible query. But, since it was better than death, he accepted the monarch's proposition to have an answer by year's end.
He returned to his kingdom and began to poll everyone: the princess, the priests, the wise men and even the court jester. He spoke with everyone, but no one could give him a satisfactory answer.
Many people advised him to consult the old ugly woman, for only she would have the answer.
But the price would be high; as the woman was famous throughout the kingdom for the exorbitant prices she charged.
The last day of the year arrived and Arthur had no choice but to talk to the old woman. She agreed to answer the question, but he would have to agree to her price first.
The old ugly woman wanted to marry Sir Lancelot, the most noble of the Knights of the Round Table and Arthur's closest friend!
Young Arthur was horrified. She was hunchbacked and hideous, had only one tooth, smelled like sewage, made obscene noises, etc. He had never encountered such a repugnant creature in all his life.
He refused to force his friend to marry her and endure such a terrible burden; but Lancelot, learning of the proposal, spoke with Arthur.
He said nothing was too big of a sacrifice compared to Arthur's life and the preservation of the Round Table.
Hence, a wedding was proclaimed and the woman answered Arthur's question thus:
What a woman really wants, she answered....is to be in charge of her own life.
Everyone in the kingdom instantly knew that the woman had uttered a great truth and that Arthur's life would be spared.
And so it was, the neighboring monarch granted Arthur his freedom and Lancelot and the ugly woman had a wonderful wedding.
The honeymoon hour approached and Lancelot, steeling himself for a horrific experience, entered the bedroom. But, what a sight awaited him. The most beautiful woman he had ever seen lay before him on the bed. The astounded Lancelot asked what had happened.
The young beauty replied that since he had been so kind to her when she appeared ugly, she would henceforth, be her horrible deformed self only half the time and the beautiful maiden the other half.
Which would he prefer? Beautiful during the day....or night?
Lancelot pondered the predicament. During the day, a beautiful woman to show off to his friends, but at night, in the privacy of his castle, an old ugly woman? Or, would he prefer having a hideous woman during the day, but by night, a beautiful woman for him to enjoy wondrous intimate moments?
What would YOU do?
What Lancelot chose is below.
BUT....make YOUR choice before you scroll down below.
OKAY?
Noble Lancelot said that he would allow HER to make the choice herself.
Upon hearing this, she announced that she would be beautiful all the time because he had respected her enough to let her be in charge of her own life.
Now....what is the moral to this story?
The moral is.....
If you don't let a woman have her own way....
Things are going to get ugly.
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