Monday, September 01, 2008

Kairos and Kenosis

Location? It reminds me of the Oregon/California coast.
καιρὸς

Kairos according to Alan Richardson is an important word in the Greek New Testament and means an appointed time in the purpose of God, for example in Mark 1:15 the kairos is fulfilled. Richardson (1999: 316).

Browning points out that kairos is an opportune time or moment for a decision, the term chronos is used for a length of time, and aion, in broad terms is era and makes the distinction between the present era, age, and coming era. Browning (1997: 371).

chronos/χρόνος
aion/αἰών


Mark 1: 15

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καιρὸς is time noun, nominative, masculine, singular

Parsing Nominative Singular Masculine 

Greek


καιρὸς: Noun a point or fixed period of time; season; the right time; due measure or fitness; advantage

κενόω


ἐκένωσεν

Kenosis is Greek for 'self-emptying'. Browning (1997: 215). George Newlands mentions that Paul uses this concept in Philippians 2:7, as Christ emptied himself regarding the incarnation. Kenotic love is in God's being, expressed through the divine self-giving of Christ, as God's love overcomes evil through the death and resurrection of Christ. Newlands (1999: 316). S.M. Smith notes that Kenotic theology focuses on the person of Christ in terms of some form of self-limitation by the preexistent Son in his becoming human. Smith (1996: 601). It theoretically looks at the incarnation in history.

Thiessen writes that Kenotic theologians have incorrectly concluded that Christ emptied himself of his divine attributes, and instead surrendered the independent use of some of his attributes. Thiessen (1956: 295-296). Thiessen sees Christ as using these powers as the Father granted them. He gave up glory and became a servant. Thiessen (1956: 296). Christ gave up glory as a servant, but could not, and did not give up being God. Erickson suggests that it was equality with God and not the form of God that Christ gave up. He still shared the same nature as the Father but subordinated himself to the Father in the incarnation. These limitations were in no way due to a loss of divine attributes, but due to the addition of human ones. Erickson (1994: 735).


Christ was fully human.

Christ subjected himself to the Father

Christ was fully God.

God the Son's (divine) attributes cannot change.

Philippians 2: 7

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ἐκένωσεν: Verb to empty out, emptied

Parsing 3rd Person Aorist Active Indicative Singular

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κενόω: Root word, to empty out, emptied

BROWNING, W.R.F. (1997) Oxford Dictionary of the Bible, Oxford, Oxford University Press.

ERICKSON, MILLARD (1994) Christian Theology, Grand Rapids, Baker Book House.

NEWLANDS, GEORGE (1999) ‘Kenosis’, in Alan Richardson and John Bowden (eds.), New Dictionary of Christian Theology, Kent, SCM Press Ltd.

RICHARDSON, ALAN (1999) ‘Kairos’, in Alan Richardson and John Bowden (eds.), New Dictionary of Christian Theology, Kent, SCM Press Ltd.

SMITH, S.M. (1996) ‘Kenosis, Kenotic Theology’, in Walter A. Elwell (ed.), Evangelical Dictionary of Theology, Grand Rapids, Baker Books.

THIESSEN, HENRY C. (1956) Introductory Lectures in Systematic Theology, Grand Rapids, Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Company.

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14. This blog is better than running from Chuck Norris 4 (From Rick)
15. This blog is better than getting pushed on stage during a Todd Bentley meeting! 2 (From GGM)
16. Outstanding 2 (From Robert)


33 comments:

  1. "Wunderbar!! I have always thought your creativity, humor, and intellect shines like a light on your personal blog!
    Keep creating and keep writing!"
    -Blog Fan that's Me Man-

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  2. Vote: 1

    Shortly after I was saved, I made a once-in-a-lifetime, unique men's weekend, Men's Sonshine Cursillo #23. No other Christian retreat that I've ever seen or heard of can compare to it. I also attended PromiseKeepers, and my Cursillo weekend was hundreds of times more powerful and life-changing than PromiseKeepers. My Cursillo weekend was one of the spiritual highpoints of my life, and it caused a radical change in me, as far as being committed to the Lord and displaying love. Now they call it Via de Cristo. Anyway, my point is that there is also an offshoot called Kairos Prison Ministry, which is basically the same thing, except for those in prison.

    Some teach that Jesus was powerless before the Holy Spirit came upon Him at baptism. Yet the Holy Spirit is the One Who caused Mary to become pregnant (non-sexually).

    Luke 1:15 says that John the Baptist would be filled with the Holy Spirit even from birth. If Jesus didn't have the Holy Spirit until He was baptized, and was powerless before that, then John the Baptist would have been greater than Jesus before that. So, those who teach that Jesus was powerless before His baptism are denigrating the Son of God.

    A non-canonical gospel (Gnostic, I believe...I think it's the Infancy Gospel of Thomas) tells of Jesus as a boy, making a bird or birds out of clay, and causing them to come to life. If this is true, then that would show plainly that Jesus had power before being baptized.

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  3. So, those who teach that Jesus was powerless before His baptism are denigrating the Son of God.

    Thanks for the vote and information, Jeff.

    Jesus was guided by the Father with the Holy Spirit, but there was a time in his life when he was called to full-time ministry.

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  4. I don't have anything to add...yet. I'm just back to work from a loooooooong (and enjoyable) weekend, so I'm a bit behind. But I can certainly vote for...drum roll please...

    8. Better than McDonalds!

    And that says a lot since, with my metabolism, I can live off of McDonalds and vitamins! :-)

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  5. GGM, thank you.

    You deserve a break today at thekingpin68.

    At thekingpin68, we do it all for you, well no, we do not do your thinking for you, this is no cult.

    Theology, folks, and fun, except for the trolls.

    I'm lovin' it, thekingpin68.

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  6. here again were the choices.

    1. Wunderbar 2
    2. Fatastic 0
    3. Extraextraordinary 0
    4. Better than Obomba and McCain's fries 0
    5. Masterpiece Theatre of Dreams 0
    6. Greaaat! 0
    7. There are no mistakes, only happy accidents, there 0
    8. Better than McDonalds 1
    9. I don't believe, but even I like your blog 0
    10. The best theology blog in this apartment building 0
    11. Scrumdilicious!
    12. Good to the last drop
    13. Better than the free 90 minute Tom Vu 'semina'

    I have no Idea who Tom in number 13 is. might I add number 14.

    this blog is better than running from Chuck norris.

    other wise, I choose number 7.

    if you want a good laugh, go to youtube put in benny hinn, turn up the volume and watch the Bodies hit the floor video. it's funny. rick b

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  7. Two votes for you Rick, thanks.

    I have seen the Benny Hinn video you mentioned and it is funny. I did an article on Benny Hinn and Benny Hill with satire and theology a few years back. The video was deleted off of You Tube.

    Here is Tom Vu, Rick.

    1

    2

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  8. Hughes likewise understands the "kenosis" as the incarnation. The statements "he became poor," "he emptied himself," and "he humbled himself," Hughes says, refer to "the Son's act of incarnation". This was not in any way a "subtraction" or a "taking away" of something in the Son, but was rather the "adding" or "taking to himself" of something--our humanity (Hughes, 233). His glory and his divine nature were for the most part concealed in his humanity, when the Word was made flesh; but he remained what he always was and is.

    Of course, Hughes goes on to explain this in more detail, but he seems to share similar sentiments as Newlands and Smith.

    I also like the alternate #14--better than running from Chuck Norris; or #15, better than getting pushed on stage during a Todd Bentley meeting! :-)

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  9. Thanks, GGM.

    I agree with Hughes, who is a fine scholar.

    Two more votes for you!

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  10. Amen to your post and the person of Christ. I would have to vote Great...
    In being in subjection to God His Father, God highly exalted Him! Phil. 2:9-12. God Bless you!
    Tamela

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  11. Thanks, Tammy.

    I desire to write Biblically accurate material.

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  12. Wonderful Wunderbar! Impressive and very creative blog full of personality, theology, and great pics from around the world!
    -King Pin Blog Groupy-

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  13. I would definitely go with "Wunderbar"

    I am trusting to your level of education, experience and the fact that you always research to the NTH degree to find the truth.

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  14. Thanks very much.

    When I have the health and time, I do my very best with God's help.

    Russ:)

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  15. Outstanding blog, Russ! I think the break from the dissertation is doing you good.

    Jeff- Cursillo & Kairos, right on! As for the gnostic gospel & the Holy Ghost, the gnostic gospels stood apart in that the gnostic preachers made no effort at honesty about anything, but would prattle on "prophetically" with the most outlandish stories and speculations. We need to be aware of the distinction between "having" the Spirit and being filled with the Spirit / the Spirit having us. Two Biblical examples would be that the disciples had the Spirit from John 20:22 before being filled at Acts 2:4; and then those who had the Spirit and had been (at a previous kairos moment) been filled were again filled in Acts 4:31. To ignore the difference leads us to the mistake common in some Pentecostal movements that one is not saved until being filled (usually in a prescribed fashion involving tongues, or possibly dancing or some other sign), or the opposite error that all who have ever repented or "prayed the prayer" are unquestionably "filled" with the Spirit of God. Both preach well, but does either stand up to the standard of Scripture?

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  16. Thanks Robert, I need to write about more than theodicy and free will and determinism, although it is important to have areas of expertise for marketing purposes, of course.

    We need to be aware of the distinction between "having" the Spirit and being filled with the Spirit / the Spirit having us. Two Biblical examples would be that the disciples had the Spirit from John 20:22 before being filled at Acts 2:4; and then those who had the Spirit and had been (at a previous kairos moment) been filled were again filled in Acts 4:31. To ignore the difference leads us to the mistake common in some Pentecostal movements that one is not saved until being filled (usually in a prescribed fashion involving tongues, or possibly dancing or some other sign), or the opposite error that all who have ever repented or "prayed the prayer" are unquestionably "filled" with the Spirit of God.

    Agreed, and excellent point.

    Being indwelled with the Spirit is another term used to describe having the Spirit. To be filled, one would also be indwelled, but to be indwelled does not mean one is filled. To be filled requires greater Holy Spirit influence.

    Russ:)

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  17. Russ,

    .... & my vote is for: "4. Better than Obomba and McCain's fries 0" !!!!

    Keep-up the great work !!!!!!!!!! Later,

    JME


    P.S. How's your Ph.D. review going ?

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  18. Thanks, Jimmy!

    I have no definite date from Wales yet, but I should be there in October.

    Russ:)

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  19. I vote for 13.
    Even though the seminah was a hoot, this blog has given me more for my (lack of) money over the years.

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  20. Robert Easter,

    I assume you made either a Cursillo/Via de Cristo or Kairos weekend. Cool!

    I agree with what you and Russ said. Every Christian is indwelt by the Holy Spirit and has the Holy Spirit. Being filled with the Holy Spirit is not a one-time thing. The Spirit is grieved and quenched when we sin.



    Russ,

    I would like to add these to my vote (remember, I'm in Florida, and we always have to adjust our votes! LOL):

    2
    6
    8

    and especially:

    14 (LOL!)
    15 (Love it!)

    and I'll also add
    16, since I too think your blog site is outstanding.

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  21. Thanks, Jeff.

    Yes, this blog is fatastic!

    We all have a little fat, and we all eat a little fat, and it is fun just like my blog!

    Greaaat! receives its second vote. Tony the Tiger is roaring happy!

    This blog is better than McDonalds, but is it better than Pizza Hut? Hmm, that is a tough one. I would have a difficult time deciding and plus our colour schemes are similar.

    Chuck Norris is cool, and Bentley I know little about. Thanks for the kind voting.

    Russ:)

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  22. Hard choice. I was first tempted to Scrumdilicious, but then realized it was just because I wanted to say that word! ;-)

    So, I will have to fo for the chuck norris one. And I used to have a bit of a crush on ole Chuck, so you should take that well!

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  23. Thanks, Deejay.

    Numbers 1 and 14 are presently tied for first place with 4 votes each.

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  24. I liked to be reminded of Kairos. A few years ago I have been reading a lot on Kairos and it amazed me, till what I read showed me yet again how God's ways are mysterious and great towards us here on the earth.

    Sorry for almost no commenting lately, but I have been over and reading each article.

    This morning is different - there was a party at our house last night and last time I counted it was 11 people sleeping in the living room and kitchen and ? people somewhere else in the house - so I am stuck in my room and in front of the computer right now....

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  25. Hi Helen,

    You are one of my most pleasant commenters, even when you occasionally disagree with me.:)

    It is good to have a non-North American perspective from those such as you and Deejay, for example.

    Sorry for almost no commenting lately, but I have been over and reading each article.

    Thanks for putting up with me. I am sorry about all the troll nonsense, but this is related to my slightly increased popularity. I need to take a stand or risk being overrun.

    Readers, if you would like a change of pace Christian blog without all the debating, please check out Helen's artistic blog.

    Helen

    This morning is different - there was a party at our house last night and last time I counted it was 11 people sleeping in the living room and kitchen and ? people somewhere else in the house - so I am stuck in my room and in front of the computer right now....

    You are a good hostess. I am back from a fire party, where the host wanted me to discuss...you guessed it...theology, with a male friend of his from work. It was a very good time, but I need to get to more parties with different topics.

    Russ;)

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  26. ROBERT EASTER,

    I just feel so strongly about this that I had to re-emphasize it:

    We need to be aware of the distinction between "having" the Spirit and being filled with the Spirit / the Spirit having us. Two Biblical examples would be that the disciples had the Spirit from John 20:22 before being filled at Acts 2:4; and then those who had the Spirit and had been (at a previous kairos moment) been filled were again filled in Acts 4:31. To ignore the difference leads us to the mistake common in some Pentecostal movements that one is not saved until being filled (usually in a prescribed fashion involving tongues, or possibly dancing or some other sign), or the opposite error that all who have ever repented or "prayed the prayer" are unquestionably "filled" with the Spirit of God. Both preach well, but does either stand up to the standard of Scripture?

    I could not agree with you more!

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  27. Jeff, I thank ya. Somehow we seem to have inherited somebody's opinion that a "Christian" is any body we say it is, but there's a lot in the Bible about partaking in the very Nature of God that seldom gets to the pulpit. But it does need to!

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  28. Somehow we seem to have inherited somebody's opinion that a "Christian" is any body we say it is...

    I have heard a number of (unsaved) people say they believe Mormons are Christians. They seem to base this on the facade (or reputation) of 'morality' that Mormons seem to have, which includes the zeal they show (as in so many of them serving as Mormon missionaries for 2 years or so), as well as the Mormons working hard to show that they are family-friendly.

    However, on the other side of the coin, I suspect that, as we get closer and closer to the End Times, the line between a Christian and a non-Christian is likely going to become more and more clear. One possible exception might be, however, that Revelation warns of a time of a Great Deception, when many will be deceived.

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  29. Jeff, you have said a screaming mouthful there. Not just in terms of cultists like Mormons and Adventists, but the "Christian" churches are so rife with Marcionism (New-Testament-only-ism), antinomianism ("Sin? Righteousness? Judgment? It doesn't matter..!") etc., that any tare-hoeing would be disastrous. This, of course, we all have dealt with in our own lives for some time. One truly disturbing sermon speaks, I think, at least as clearly to us as to its original hearers.

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  30. Or for a shorter answer, whether it gets clearer who the real Christians are is not about watching the world turn away from God, but whether those who claim His Name will claim His grace and repent of the doubleminded "lifestyle" to which we've all grown so accustomed.

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