Saturday, November 06, 2010

Woe


Spilled paint wild flowers

Woe (oὐαὶ root word) from Strong's is an exclamation of grief, woe, alas. Strong (1890)(1986: 70). The Greek word according to Bauer is an interjection denoting pain or displeasure as in woe and alas. Bauer (1979: 591). Bauer mentions that this would often be doubled for emphasize as in alas, alas and even three times as in Revelation 8: 13.

Revelation 8:13 (New American Standard Bible)

13Then I looked, and I heard an eagle flying in (A)midheaven, saying with a loud voice, "(B)Woe, woe, woe to (C)those who dwell on the earth, because of the remaining blasts of the trumpet of the (D)three angels who are about to sound!

Browning calls the 'woe' the very antithesis of 'blessed' and 'happy'. Browning (1997: 397). As examples, the rich are compared to the poor in Luke 6. Browning (1997: 397). The rich are warned with a woe that they are receiving their comfort in full verse 24 for they shall mourn and weep, verse 25.

It would appear that any actions that would be considered worthy of woe should be avoided at all costs.

I am not against persons being rich in principle, and I reason the Bible is discussing those rich persons that abuse the poor. As I consider two careers with my degrees as a professor and in media, I would like to be financially successful myself, but strictly by honourable means.

Today it seems to me in the world with certain internet scams, certain bankers, certain financiers, certain offshore persons within companies abusing cheap labour and many other examples, many persons within entities are risking woe by placing too much emphasis on earthly financial success at the expense of morality and truth while they abuse the poor, even if indirectly.

Those with the potential to be placed in woe position should ponder on the Scripture carefully. It is no good to gain the world and lose one's soul (Mathew 16: 26). Browning also explains that woe is also connected to a lack of repentance comparing two towns that may repent (Tyre and Sidon) in Matthew 11 with two towns that are doomed (Chorazin and Bethsaida). Browning (1997: 397). There are also woes described in terms of disasters for the earth as in the mentioned Revelation 8: 13. Browning (1997: 397).

And so there is also corporate woe. As in the judgment on towns and more.

BAUER, W. (1979) A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, Translated by Eric H. Wahlstrom, Chicago, The University of Chicago Press.

BROWNING, W.R.F. (1997) Dictionary of the Bible, Oxford, Oxford University Press.

STRONG, J. (1890)(1986) Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible, Pickering, Ontario, Welch Publishing Company.


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45 comments:

  1. It is no good to gain the world and lose one's soul (Mathew 16: 26). Very true words. I love this blog entry and even the pics and video

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  2. Thank you very much, Daij.

    So, I take it that is one vote for Bible Studies posts?

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  3. There is nothing wrong with the accumulation of wealth as long as that wealth is put to good use like in creating honest business where people can be gainfully employed, by supporting charities, etc. etc. But in so many cases when wealth is gained by some, others must suffer. The RICH get richer and the POOR get poorer. Sad.

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  4. Yes i think one would be wise to avoid being told woe to. But sadly many are foolish and will not repent.

    More beautiful pix Russ.. the wild flowers are amazing :)

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  5. 'Yes i think one would be wise to avoid being told woe to. But sadly many are foolish and will not repent.

    More beautiful pix Russ.. the wild flowers are amazing :)'

    Only the Lord can save them. Thanks so much Tammy. Mom emailed me that photo years ago.

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  6. i have posted some of those topics too Dr. Russ..:) but i have it all just in the surface...just so, people in my age would understand.:) yours is with some MORE intellectual level.:)

    one blog i talked about spending our resources on things that are eternal..
    http://sevencupsofrice.blogspot.com/2010/10/and-nobel-prize-award-goes-to.html

    on the other i talked about people to repent from their sins..
    http://sevencupsofrice.blogspot.com/2010/11/god-has-wonderful-plan-for-your-life.html

    hope you'll read them as well.:)

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  7. "Today it seems to me in the world with certain internet scams, certain bankers, certain financiers, certain offshore persons within companies abusing cheap labour and many other examples, many persons within entities are risking woe by placing too much emphasis on earthly financial success at the expense of morality and truth while they abuse the poor, even if indirectly."

    One more vote for Bible Study posts!! Nicely done!

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  8. Cheers, Greg! It is also good for me to work on my New Testament Greek and background studies.

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  9. No doubt the topic of Woe is timely as I have been following others who are trying to dispense with Hell altogether - and thus dispense with 'Woe'?! There is a physical death that we will all go through. I feel that this is a Woe, but given that it is inevitable, and a violent short death is lest Woeful than a long debilitating death, I have to wonder the extent of the Woe here.

    So what do you think is the source of the Woe? Is it the physical punishment of death? Then even the saints experience the Woe. Or is there a spiritual dimension to the Woe?

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  10. I would benefit from Bible studies but I also enjoy your eclectic assortment of clips and photos.

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  11. 'No doubt the topic of Woe is timely as I have been following others who are trying to dispense with Hell altogether - and thus dispense with 'Woe'?!'

    I agree it is timely. Yes, I realize having studied theodicy and the problem of evil for over a decade some are trying to dismiss hell. Many are against everlasting punishment and some even annihilation and instead favour universalism.

    From what I could find out concerning woe from my fairly limited library on the subject and the fairly limited information on the web, the connection between woe/woes and hell was not what I would call definite and definitive.


    'There is a physical death that we will all go through.'

    Yes.

    'I feel that this is a Woe, but given that it is inevitable, and a violent short death is lest Woeful than a long debilitating death, I have to wonder the extent of the Woe here.

    So what do you think is the source of the Woe? Is it the physical punishment of death? Then even the saints experience the Woe. Or is there a spiritual dimension to the Woe?'

    I hold to woe as defined. It is a type of curse as a result of actions.

    While I was writing the short and very non-exhaustive post for which I really did not find a lot of information, James 2 did come to mind.

    From the NASB

    1 My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. 2 For if a man comes into your assembly with a gold ring and dressed in fine clothes, and there also comes in a poor man in dirty clothes, 3 and you pay special attention to the one who is wearing the fine clothes, and say, “You sit here in a good place,” and you say to the poor man, “You stand over there, or sit down by my footstool,” 4 have you not made distinctions among yourselves, and become judges with evil motives? 5 Listen, my beloved brethren: did not God choose the poor of this world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom which He promised to those who love Him? 6 But you have dishonored the poor man. Is it not the rich who oppress you and personally drag you into court? 7 Do they not blaspheme the fair name by which you have been called?

    So, this too is a lack of good treatment toward the poor but is written to Christians and it did not appear to be a woe.

    Thanks, Looney.

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  12. 'I would benefit from Bible studies but I also enjoy your eclectic assortment of clips and photos.'

    Thanks, David.

    Creative marketing. I hope.

    And now if the posting and editing of comments was easier! But working with Blogger code is still easier than with Web Starts (thekingpin68.com) which I am going to dump eventually!

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  13. Woa Baby, Woa!
    A very cool idea with the car doors, nice video. I wonder how long before this catches on and becomes the norm for modern day vehicles?
    -Driving Me Crazy Magazine-

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  14. What a bunch of Bull, why do people want to go up against a bull?? One hit from the bull's horns and we're talking serious injuries! I do have to admit that the flips over the bull were pretty cool!
    Be careful people!
    -Wooly Bully-

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  15. 'Woa Baby, Woa!
    A very cool idea with the car doors, nice video. I wonder how long before this catches on and becomes the norm for modern day vehicles?
    -Driving Me Crazy Magazine-'

    It looks much easier to use.

    But I wonder about safety concerns such as potential injuries and deaths including decapitations of small children in extreme cases.

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  16. 'What a bunch of Bull, why do people want to go up against a bull?? One hit from the bull's horns and we're talking serious injuries! I do have to admit that the flips over the bull were pretty cool!
    Be careful people!
    -Wooly Bully-'

    I will not attempt to show a bull being killed, but I do not mind showing a bull having some fun with some fools or some people fooling around with bulls.

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  17. On riches:
    "Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God." (Matthew 19:24)

    On the wisdom of this world:
    "But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. God chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things—and the things that are not—to nullify the things that are, so that no one may boast before him." (1 Corinthians 1:27-29)

    woe
    –noun
    1.
    grievous distress, affliction, or trouble: His woe was almost beyond description.
    2.
    an affliction: She suffered a fall, among her other woes.
    –interjection
    3.
    an exclamation of grief, distress, or lamentation.
    —Synonyms
    1. anguish, tribulation, trial, wretchedness, melancholy.
    —Antonyms
    1. joy.

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  18. Thanks, Jeff.

    I am wondering. What is the source of your 'woe' documentation?

    Cheers.

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  19. I am wondering. What is the source of your 'woe' documentation?

    See the link of the underlined blue word "woe" in my previous comment.

    My humor blog gets tons of comments; the problem is, they're all spam. Oh, woe is me.

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  20. Oh I see 'woe' in red was a link, I should have noticed as with my latest format change red is still the link colour in comments...so sorry.

    Whoa.

    Cheers.;)

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  22. Thank you, 'Steve Martin' from India, you wild and crazy guy.

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  23. Here are a couple excellent posts on the banality of (financial) evil:
    Part 1
    Part 2
    "Though fraud and complicity are presented in the mainstream media as isolated conspiracies outside the status quo, the truth is that the status quo is now entirely dependent on fraud and complicity for its very survival. Every level of the status quo would immediately implode were fraud and complicity suddenly withdrawn from the system."

    Integrity and truthfulness are becoming rare commodities.

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  24. Thanks, Cardinal Chucklins.

    Very cute.

    I am thinking that an aspect of the problem of evil and sin is the pleasure that is often tangled up within woes that humanly prevents people from repenting.

    I am still acknowledging here that only God can regenerate the person (John 3, Romans 8, Ephesians 1).

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  25. I think it is a different Steve Martin who came up with an Atheist gospel song.

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  26. 'Here are a couple excellent posts on the banality of (financial) evil:'

    A major aspect of the problem of evil is the problem of subtle often overlooked evil.

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  27. Oh I see 'woe' in red was a link, I should have noticed as with my latest format change red is still the link colour in comments...so sorry.

    Yeah, it's red on the main page where comments are underneath the article, but when you click on "Post Comment" and see the comments listed there, it is blue, as are the other links. Interesting as to the color change for links.

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  28. I can't speak for Indian Steve, but the comedian/actor/singer/musician Steve is most likely agnostic:
    "In his authorised biography, close friend Morris Walker suggests that Martin could "be described most accurately as an agnostic [...] he rarely went to church and was never involved in organised religion of his own volition".
    The question I have is, is Indian Steve Martin a fan of comedian Steve Martin? I thought his Inspector Clouseau was quite humourous.

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  29. Satire and Theology: Who would disrupt Remembrance Day

    From Facebook:

    A comment from the public:

    'Please ...peace on earth...As human...we have to love to each other, that is our Lord Jesus taught us no matter someone is Samaritan or not...different religion, race or whatsoever.....'

    My reply:

    Loving others does not cancel out the need for discussing another religion. Thanks.:)

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  30. 'The only authorized Bible-printing company in China marked the printing of its eighty-millionth Bible on Monday, the government’s official press agency announced.'

    Good.

    But, I also hope China opens up in the future to different Bible publishing.

    Cheers, Jeff.

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  31. China's going online as far as Biblical things go. You can get some of the latest goings on and news here: www.jidutu-wiki.org

    I still don't have the Chinese version of YouVersion on my iPhone, but they tell me it is on the way.

    And yes, I like the Biblical studies posts.

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  32. Ah, so you are Chinese?

    Thanks for the update.

    Thanks as well for the positive word on the on Biblical studies posts. My first two degrees contained much Biblical work and of course that did not completely cease when I concentrated more on theology and philosophy of religion.

    I will try and roughly alternate between Biblical studies, theology and philosophy of religion posts, which is good for me on many levels including the fact that I do not know where I could end up working. I could end up having to focus on one of those disciplines more than the other.

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  33. No, I am not Chinese - just a foreigner who lives among them. The church I attend (www.hoc6.org) is a Chinese one with members from mainland China, Taiwan, Hong Kong and other places.

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  34. Thanks, that was my second guess as you live in California. I had no certainty, therefore the question mark.;)

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  35. Aloha from Waikiki :)

    I think we agree on many things.

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  36. That is good Cloudia, because I have enough hassles already in life.;)

    Dr. Kingpin

    Thanks, as always.

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  37. Re: Facebook

    Greg Smith asked for a favourite author list of 15:

    Order not in stone...

    1. John Calvin
    2. Millard Erickson
    3. John Feinberg
    4. Alvin Plantinga
    5. Simon Blackburn
    6. Robert Mounce
    7. F.F. Bruce
    8. Marvel Comics
    9. D.C. Comics
    10. Augustine
    11. Louis Pojman
    12. Douglas Geivett
    13. Weber Otto
    14. William Shedd
    15. Herman Bavink

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  38. Thank you so much for your comment!
    Your blog is very interesting, im going to check it out!
    Beautiful images, by the way.
    Nice to meet you and thanks for your visit,
    Nancy

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