Wednesday, October 24, 2007
Criticism, toleration, and the Trinity
Red Centre, Northern Territory, Australia (photo from trekearth.com)
The following three propositions below, are from my problem of evil questionnaire. God willing, once I pass my PhD dissertation, I shall publish the entire statistical chapter, but for now I will release some of this copyrighted material. I am in the middle of trying to put my introduction together for my doctorate and do not have the time to present material outside of my thesis work.
Religions should not be beyond criticism.
72.8% of respondents supported this concept.
Differing religious views should be tolerated.
56.3% of persons supported this idea.
The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are the same God.
96.7% accepted the Biblical idea of the Trinity
By examining the first two questions together, one can conclude that the majority of respondents think that religions should be criticized but also tolerated. A question arises. In the mind of respondents, how much should a religion be criticized before it is no longer tolerated? I would be interested in reading your comments. I strongly agree with the 72.8% of respondents that supported the notion that religion should not be beyond criticism, and to some extent agree that differing religions should be tolerated. Must all religious philosophies be tolerated? I think not, if a religion advocates murder for example, or is intolerant of the basic rights of others, it should not be tolerated. I do not think that religions that offer human sacrifice should be tolerated. I do however, in a secular Western world, appreciate the right to worship, write and live as a Christian, and realize that those of other religious or non-religious viewpoints should have the same freedom.
One of the purposes of this blog is to look at religious and non-religious views critically, and with tolerance when possible. My own views come from years of scholarly and personal research, and are open for revision, although I hold to certain views and doctrines more strongly than others. There are essentials within Christian faith and philosophy that are non-negotiable in order to actually legitimately call oneself a Christian, in a Biblical sense. In my writing, I often focus on the nature of God and the atoning and resurrection work of Christ. The nature of God within Christianity is essential to understand and accept, as one cannot reasonably, merely believe in a God of choice and attempt to make that the Biblical God. The understanding revealed within the New Testament is that God is of one undivided nature, but yet in unity. Thiessen (1956: 134). Thiessen quotes Deuteronomy 6:4 and Mark 12:29, where God is called one. Thiessen (1956: 134). A comprehensive evaluation of the doctrine of the Trinity could easily be a PhD dissertation, but there are good explanations of the doctrine. Thiessen admits that the word Trinity is not in Scripture, and he writes that the term was perhaps first used by in the Greek as Trias by Theophilus of Antioch (d. 181) and then in the Latin by Tertullian (d. ca. 220). Thiessen (1956: 135). Thiessen explains that the idea behind the Trinity is that from the New Testament there are three external distinctions, in the one divine nature, as they are known to us as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Thiessen (1956: 135). These three persons are not to be confused as being the same or are they of a different substance. Thiessen (1956: 135). Thiessen points out that the Trinity is not Tritheism, as there are not three distinct Gods. Thiessen (1956: 135). He also explains that Biblical Christianity does not hold to Sabellianism (third century) as this would understand God as having three qualities within one person. Thiessen (1956: 135). Sabellianism does not hold to real distinctions existing, but merely names that are used at different times. Erickson (1994: 334). God would work in different modes, and this is known as modalism. Grenz, Guretzki, and Nordling. (1999: 79). H.E.W. Turner writes that Sabellianism is an alternate description of modalism which gave the doctrine in its most sophisticated form. Turner (1999: 514). Robert M. Bowman notes that the Trinitarian faith does not allow for the dividing of substance. Bowman (1990: 13). The persons present in the Trinity are not representing three separate beings with differing natures of differing substance, but to Bowman they are three personal distinctions each fully God. Bowman (1990: 13).
BOWMAN, ROBERT M. (1990) Why You Should Believe in the Trinity, Grand Rapids, Baker Book House.
ERICKSON, MILLARD. (1994) Christian Theology, Grand Rapids, Baker Book House.
GRENZ, STANLEY J., DAVID GURETZKI AND CHERITH FEE NORDLING (1999) Pocket Dictionary of Theological Terms, Downers Grove, Ill., InterVarsity Press.
THIESSEN, HENRY C. (1956) Introductory Lectures in Systematic Theology, Grand Rapids, Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Company.
TURNER, H.E.W. (1999) ‘Sabellianism’, in Alan Richardson and John Bowden (eds.), A New Dictionary of Christian Theology, Kent, SCM Press Ltd.
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Like the photo and enjoyed the article. By the way there is a bike ride in northern Australia going on right now, it's called the Crocodile Trophy. www.crocodile-trophy.com There are some great photo's on the site.
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Thanks Russell.
ReplyDeleteI shall look at the site you suggested.
Great article. Very well exlained. I will look forward to more of these when your PhD is awarded to you. You have worked hard, and your knowledge will be valuable to others over the coming years.
ReplyDeleteYour ideas on religious toleration makes a lot of sense and your points are well articulated. World religions can be extreme in their views, its their right to do so. However, a world religion should never be tolerated when it practices hatred and violence by its adherents.
ReplyDelete-Peacefully yours-
Thanks.
ReplyDeleteI agree that violence and murder/sacrifice should not be legally or morally tolerated.
Cheers
On the Issue of the Trinity, go to youtube and type in Chuck Missler, he does a 3 part serious on the trinity, I think it is very well done. He has a website at www.khouse.org.
ReplyDeleteThen Kingpin said :
Religions should not be beyond criticism.
Differing religious views should be tolerated.
I am a follower of Jesus, but I am not religious and I hate religion. Religion is dragging people to hell and putting them into bondage. Being a believer in Christ is not a religion.
I am all for criticism of other religions and I do not tolerate religions. I openly speak out on the problems I see in them. I also believe people should look at Believers in Christ and call them to account if they screw up. But just because we make mistakes does not mean Jesus cannot exist. Our being liars and doing stupid stuff does not mean Jesus does not exist. Rick b
Thanks for the link information, Rick.
ReplyDeleteWe have discussed this topic before previously and I think that there is no major disagreement.
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The term religion is an academic one describing all world faiths, but in another sense religion can be understood as human attempts to find God, whereas through Biblical Christianity, God reveals himself to humanity. When I use the term religion in my dissertation and/or questionnaire I am using the first meaning, but your point is well taken Rick.
As for toleration we agreed in the article above that non-Christian religions have the right to exist at this time (in a democracy), and so it that sense we tolerate them, but toleration does not equal intellectual acceptance. I agree with you Rick, that even as we are sinners we still need to speak the truth with God's help. We need to share the gospel message and respectfully and accurately critique various religious movements.
Kingpin said :The term religion is an academic one describing all world faiths, but in another sense religion can be understood as human attempts to find God, whereas through Biblical Christianity, God reveals himself to humanity.
ReplyDeleteI understand exactly what You and other believers mean when they/you use the word religion, but when it comes to non-believers they really do not understand the difference between Christianty and religion, So it blows them away when I say I am a follower of Christ but I hate religion.
Rick b
Yes, the challenge of relating an academic theology blog to non-believers is an interesting one. My work must remain largely academic and yet be understandable.
ReplyDeleteCheers:)