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Philosopher Simon Blackburn explains a paradox arises when a set of apparently incontrovertible premises provides what would be viewed as unacceptable or contradictory conclusions. Blackburn (1996: 276). John Etchemendy writes that seemingly sound reasoning based on assumptions leads to conclusions contradictory or obviously false. Etchemendy (1996: 558).
Blackburn uses the 'barber paradox' (page 36) where a village has a barber in it, who shaves all and only the persons that do not shave themselves. Therefore who shaves the barber? If he shaves himself, then he does not, but if he shaves himself, then he does. Blackburn (1996: 36). Blackburn provides the opinion that in reality philosophically there would be no such barber. The situation is inconsistent. Blackburn (1996: 36).
He references Russell's paradox and the class of all classes that are not members of themselves.
'If it is, then it is not, and if it not, then it is'. Blackburn (1996: 336).
Again an inconsistency and Blackburn notes what a 'class' is needs to be more clearly defined.
With paradoxes such as these that arise in certain arguments within theology and philosophy it is often important to simply deny certain assumptions, premises, propositions that can lead to illogical, inconsistent and false conclusions.
I agree with Etchemendy as he stated paradoxes are often solved when mistaken principles or assumptions are found and rejected. Etchemendy (1996: 558).
This was a very useful in working through theological and philosophical theodicy and problem of evil arguments. Often a way to deny apparent paradoxes is to seriously examine if premises in actuality should be accepted as presented. Often this is more important than concentrating primarily on the conclusion or conclusions.
BLACKBURN, SIMON (1996) Oxford Dictionary of Philosophy, Oxford, Oxford University Press.
ETCHEMENDY, JOHN (1996) ‘Paradox’, in Robert Audi (ed.), The Cambridge Dictionary of Philosophy, Cambridge, Cambridge University Press.
It would seem to me to be a paradox that God cannot die, yet Jesus, God the Son, died on the cross.
ReplyDeleteAnother paradox, I think, would have to do with Jesus being fully God and fully man at the same time.
Yet another paradox might be that God is one Being, yet three Persons. But this might only be considered a paradox because human beings do not exist in this manner, neither does any other creature. Yet birds do not have scales, and fish do not have wings, so not all beings exist in the same manner. God, being God, is unique, and there is none other like Him.
Another possible paradox might be that God is perfectly just, and therefore must punish sin, yet He is also perfectly loving. That problem was solved through Christ dying for our sins, since Christ absorbed God's full wrath and became sin for us, and for those who have been regenerated through Christ and the Holy Spirit, their sins have been paid for.
'It would seem to me to be a paradox that God cannot die, yet Jesus, God the Son, died on the cross.'
ReplyDeleteThis one I would handle by noting Jesus the human being died, Jesus in body with a human spirit as well. Jesus as God/Spirit (not Holy Spirit) did not technically die, although there was an incarnation, so a union.
'Another paradox, I think, would have to do with Jesus being fully God and fully man at the same time.'
Relates to last thought.
'Yet another paradox might be that God is one Being, yet three Persons. But this might only be considered a paradox because human beings do not exist in this manner, neither does any other creature. Yet birds do not have scales, and fish do not have wings, so not all beings exist in the same manner. God, being God, is unique, and there is none other like Him.'
A key would be that God is only of one essence, substance and nature (Hebrews, Colossians, Philippians, John). So in that vital sense God is one, although in the New Testament especially is represented as Father, Son, Holy Spirit (Matthew 28).
'Another possible paradox might be that God is perfectly just, and therefore must punish sin, yet He is also perfectly loving. That problem was solved through Christ dying for our sins, since Christ absorbed God's full wrath and became sin for us, and for those who have been regenerated through Christ and the Holy Spirit, their sins have been paid for.'
I think your explanation solves the problem.
Thank you Sir Jenkins of Ocala.
Relating to Looney's reference in the other post regarding the infinitesimal, there is also a seeming paradox involved in the simple act of motion. How can anything move from point A to point B, if the distance can be subdivided infinitesimally? It would take forever to move, and motion would be impossible. Obviously the premise that there is an infinite number of subdivisions possible is incorrect, and at some microscopic level, matter simply must "teleport" from one point to another.
ReplyDeleteI think in many cases misunderstandings arise because of unstated or assumed premises which are false.
Agreed. Many premises should be denied as false. As matter does not disappear is our known scientific universe this would be another indicator that your example is a paradox as hypothetically, philosophically, if possible, I reason something finite divided in half, or by self in some way continually should eventually become nothing. It is not infinite.
ReplyDeleteAll natural processes conform to the laws of thermodynamics as in the conversion of energy from one form to another. Oxford Dictionary of Science (2010: 816).
But scientifically matter and energy do not cease. Energy is the measure of a system’s ability to do work. Oxford Dictionary of Science (2010: 289).
A paradox, neat analogy about the barber, article makes sense when it remarks that sound reasoning based on assumptions leads to conclusions contradictory or false...makes sense.
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Thanks Jeff for your thoughtful paradox examples and for your replies Dr. Murray.
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Thank you, thank you very much.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of barbers...
'Honkey Tonk Don' your Dad, did he not last change his hairstyle in the 1960s? Sorry you set me up...
Jeff is a swell guy from Florida, yes.
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Thank you, Barber Boy and Dr. Murray!
ReplyDeleteThis one I would handle by noting Jesus the human being died, Jesus in body with a human spirit as well. Jesus as God/Spirit (not Holy Spirit) did not technically die, although there was an incarnation, so a union.
Would you nevertheless agree that God did experience (human) death?
A key would be that God is only of one essence, substance and nature (Hebrews, Colossians, Philippians, John). So in that vital sense God is one, although in the New Testament especially is represented as Father, Son, Holy Spirit (Matthew 28).
Yes, and even in Genesis 1:26 (NIV) it says, "Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness..."
'Would you nevertheless agree that God did experience (human) death?'
ReplyDeleteIn a sense yes, but with infinite knowledge God understood this already.
I am not certain how much can actually be made of the theological difference.
Happy Sunday
Good afternoon Dr. Russell
ReplyDeleteHow are you? We had a great weekend, I hope also to be a good week. I'm sure you also have ^^
I love Canada, some day I will travel. I will make many photographs, of course ^ ^
ReplyDeleteCanada is my favorite country and I can not die without seeing Lake Louise. The photo above is of a girl in the lake, unfortunately not me...
Have a good week Dr. ^^
'Miss Sarah W. Winter said...
ReplyDeleteGood afternoon Dr. Russell
How are you? We had a great weekend, I hope also to be a good week. I'm sure you also have ^^'
It was a sunny weekend, which in the Lower Mainland and Greater Vancouver is rare, so we shall take it.:)
'Miss Sarah W. Winter said...
ReplyDeleteI love Canada, some day I will travel. I will make many photographs, of course ^ ^
Canada is my favorite country and I can not die without seeing Lake Louise. The photo above is of a girl in the lake, unfortunately not me...
Have a good week Dr. ^^'
Good to read. I would like to see Spain and Latin Europe. Blessings to you and family this week, Sarah.
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I wanted to send you this little note just to give many thanks.
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ReplyDeleteSpeaking of Bobby, where is he this evening? Shaving off Crisco?
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ReplyDeleteWell, one of them has changed the 'doo since the 1960s. But only one.
Well my hair is getting to look more like it was in 1966, when I was an infant...
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ReplyDeleteyou for your visit and great writing i want the same of miss Sarah. Winter see canada a lot of people talk about it and say it is so beautiful i hope so!!!
Hello!!thank
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Good thoughts. I wish to see Spain.
ReplyDeletePlease have a good weekend, Valentina.
Russ:)
La première photo est magnifique <3
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