Sunday, August 16, 2009

Enlightenment?

Gold Coast, Australia 

From my MPhil 

MPhil 

I realize I used some variant, but correct versions of words from British English back in 2003. 6. Enlightenment? In his sixth chapter, entitled Suffering and the God of the Philosophers, McGrath pointed out that suffering was nothing new in the world. He did state, however, that the philosophical way in which suffering was now discussed, had been changed. He noted: Indeed, I spent many years working through most of the major works on Christian theology written between the twelfth and sixteenth centuries, and cannot recall any of them treating the reality of suffering as a serious obstacle to Christian faith. McGrath (1992: 40). 

McGrath noted that the change took place beginning in the seventeenth century which led to the era of the Enlightenment. It shifted the defence of the gospel from revelation and Scripture to philosophy. The view was: "To defend the Christian faith, it was advisable to set aside traditional ways of justifying it, and instead to rely upon the wisdom of philosophy." McGrath (1992: 40). 

McGrath was critical of this approach which overlooked revelation and Scripture, and instead looked to philosophy. It changed the God represented from a personal God of Scripture to a perfect philosophical God. He was particularly critical of seventeenth century philosopher Rene Descartes. McGrath thought that the " . . .enormous emphasis which came to be placed upon the perfection of God by Descartes was totally compromised by the undeniable fact of the existence of evil and suffering. How could a perfect being allow such imperfection to exist?" McGrath (1992: 41). 

McGrath believed that this type of thinking, which he described as creating the god of philosophers, put so much emphasis on God’s perfect attributes that it took away from God’s actual experience in suffering as Christ. So when modern critics were criticizing God, they often criticised this perfect, aloof God whom they thought represented Christianity, whereas the God of revelation and Scripture suffered personally on earth. He died for the sins of humanity, was resurrected and will restore creation. Seventeenth century revision of Christian thought was known as the Age of Reason, which led to the Enlightenment. Colin Brown described the Enlightenment as follows: The Age of Enlightenment (German Die Aufklarung) covers roughly the eighteenth century. It is sometimes identified with the Age of Reason, but the latter term covers both the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. Although the Enlightenment had some of its roots in seventeenth century rationalism, the ideas which characterize the Enlightenment went far beyond the rationalism of Descartes, Spinoza, and the thinkers of their time. Brown (1996: 355). So from Brown’s idea, the roots of the Enlightenment started with philosophers like Descartes, but went beyond those men. 

Basically the ideas McGrath was discussing took place in the Enlightenment - Age of Reason. David A. Pailin, of Manchester University, stated: The Enlightenment’s criticism of the authority of tradition led to increasing secularization in attitudes and ideas. Nature is seen as an ordered whole rather than as a stage for divine interventions and supernatural happenings. So far as religious beliefs are concerned, claims to revelation are acceptable only when they are rationally justified and their contents subject to reason’s judgement. Biblical stories and accepted doctrines are not immune from criticism. Works like Bayle’s Historical and Critical Dictionary and Voltaire’s Philosophical Dictionary highlight the faults of revered figures and the questionability of standard doctrines. Historical and literary investigations into the Bible develop. Reports about miracles, especially that of the resurrection, give rise to considerable discussion. There is great hostility to priestcraft and suspicion of ecclesiastical pretensions to guide human understanding. Pailin (1999: 180). 

David Pailin’s comments demonstrate some of the modern assumptions made by philosophers of religion concerning Christianity. As McGrath indicated, there is a distrust of revelation and Scripture. As Pailin pointed out, revelation and ecclesiastical pretensions would often face great hostility philosophically. I agree with the Enlightenment approach to review Christian claims through reason, but it appears that more faith is put in the Enlightenment critics of Christianity than in the people who wrote the original work. Enlightenment thinking is committed to ". . . reason as the proper tool and final authority for determining issues." Pailin (1999: 179). 

Enlightenment thinking has human reason as the final authority, whereas traditional Christianity uses human reason, but it assumes that human nature is fallen and God must reveal himself to that reason. Enlightenment thinking, in my view, rests on the faulty idea that finite man should be able to be the final judge regarding ideas about God. Enlightenment era thinking, which is still prominent in liberal circles today, believes that man has the ability to reason out who God is, whereas traditional Christianity believes that God must reveal himself in order for human beings to come to some understanding of who he is. So the Enlightenment puts greater emphasis on the human mind comprehending God, whereas traditional Christianity puts emphasis on Scripture inspired by God, which must teach human beings about God. Two problems come to mind concerning the human mind’s ability to know God. First, the human mind is finite, God is infinite. It could be said that human beings could only understand God in a limited way. This is not to say that the limited human understanding was in error or without logic, but simply limited. 

For this reason, I think in this relationship God would have to take the initiative in presenting himself to humanity for greater understanding, and this would lead to revelation. Second, I believe there is significant evidence in Scripture and everyday life, that humanity is imperfect and sinful, and in a spiritual condition where they would have to be transformed in order to have a relationship with God. I am not saying that human beings cannot understand things about God without revelation, but I am stating that revelation is required for a changed spirit which could lead to a relationship with God. I, therefore, do not think that human reason outside of revelation should be our final authority in theology. 

BROWN, C. (1996) The Enlightenment, in Walter A. Elwell (ed.), Evangelical Dictionary of Theology, Grand Rapids, Baker Books. 

McGRATH, A. (1992) Bridge-Building, Leicester, Inter-Varsity Press. 

McGRATH, A. (1992) Suffering, London, Hodder and Stoughton Limited. 

PAILIN, D.A. (1999) Enlightenment, in Alan Richardson and John Bowden (eds.), A New Dictionary of Christian Theology, Kent, SCM Press Limited.

   

Re: Our after church lunch discussion, this photo is dedicated to Charles I, Charles II, and Trevor.

42 comments:

  1. Very interesting, Russ. I hadn't thought about the negative role that heightened philosophically thinking played in undermining biblical revelation. I guess it makes sense that if we elevate philosophy over revelation we have then made "man" the arbiter of truth; revelation must then conform to our philosophical structure rather than our philosophical understandings being formed from a biblical structure.

    Your paragraph on Descartes and following makes a lot of sense. And to your two concluding paragraphs I say, "Amen"! :-)

    GGM

    p.s. I can't view the video's until tonight, but NO ONE bests The Hulk!!

    p.p.s. How did that stuff get up on my FB page? I didn't submit them. Do they randomly post links like that? (I don't mind, of course...just wondering).

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  2. People tend to put God in a box and declare what He is or isn't, or what He can or cannot do. When you do that, you can arrive to incorrect conclusions about Him (such as what you mentioned about allowing sin and suffering).

    And then there are the purely nonsensical attacks, such as: If God is all-powerful, can He create a boulder that He would not be able to lift?

    Sigh. He just IS, all right??? :)

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  3. The photo at the bottom was so shocking that I may have to read the entire post again as my brain was zapped!

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  4. 'I guess it makes sense that if we elevate philosophy over revelation we have then made "man" the arbiter of truth; revelation must then conform to our philosophical structure rather than our philosophical understandings being formed from a biblical structure.'

    Agreed and well stated, GGM.

    'p.p.s. How did that stuff get up on my FB page? I didn't submit them. Do they randomly post links like that? (I don't mind, of course...just wondering)'.

    I am not sure why Facebook Networked Blogs posted your old post on my Facebook News Feed page. I am surprised they posted an old post but am glad to see your work posted.

    Thanks for all the encouragement!

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  5. Cheers, Greg.

    Enlightenment era views significantly fuel the theology and philosophy of many in cultural Christian academia today.

    Russ:)

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  6. Stan, yes, too much plastic surgery for all involved, it appears from a little bit of research I did online.

    Cheers.

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  7. Well put Russ. But you should get a kickback from Madame Tussauds Wax Museum for the advertisement.

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  8. 'Well put Russ. But you should get a kickback from Madame Tussauds Wax Museum for the advertisement.'

    Mr. Ox, that is funny!

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  9. SOS Ministry Newsletter - September 2009

    Dear Christian Friends,

    For the 30th year, Christians came from around the U.S. to bring the gospel to the people of San Francisco and Berkeley. For the 4th year, a youth group joined us from Payson, Utah. The outreach began with a flurry of police activity. As the team was witnessing at the Sony Metreon entertainment complex Friday night, seven police officers suddenly arrived, batons in hand. They had received a report that a preacher had pushed someone with an amplifier. Fortunately, they left after realizing that it was a false report.

    On Saturday, the band Machaira ministered at UN Plaza. Many people stood around, listening to the excellent music. Lt. Balma, who had arrested me 11 years ago and confiscated our PA system for a year, approached me and asked to see our permit. He didn't do anything, but he drove back several times, and appeared to be writing some kind of report on our activities. We haven't had any arrests since 1998, and hope this continues. Usually during SOS week, at least one team gets shut down by the police, but it didn't happen this year.

    We may have spared the police from a big problem that day. A man approached us, saying he was on the way to kill someone for money. He heard the music, stopped, and God convicted him that what he was going to do was wrong. He said he wanted to give his life to Christ. The Utah youth prayed with five people that afternoon. Several others also prayed with people that day.

    Paul Coca and Tim Moon ministered with us every day, starting on Monday. Chuck Girard ministered Thursday through Saturday. On Monday and Wednesday, we witnessed at Fisherman's Wharf. On Monday, the Utah team ministered through music and "human videos." On Wednesday, a youth band from Church of the Valley, Morgan Hill, ministered there. Each time, a large crowd gathered to listen. We had many good conversations at the Wharf. On Monday, Jeff and Lorretta witnessed to Wi, a Vietnamese man who is living in Hong Kong. They gave him a book by Max Lucado that explains the Christian faith. Craig ministered to Robert, a Christian who came to San Francisco from Alabama looking for work. He was homeless, so he took him to the church. We ministered to him and helped him get a bus ticket home. Kim gave a tract to Lawrence, a young man on a bike. He returned and said he really needed prayer. He has cancer and no family, and is homeless. Jeff and Loretta prayed with him.

    (cont.)

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  10. (cont.)

    On Tuesday and Thursday, we witnessed in Berkeley. The Utah team ministered on Tuesday. On Thursday, Chuck Girard and Zack and Christian ministered. Zack is 13. He writes songs and is an excellent guitar player. His brother Christian is 8 and plays drums. Both live in Nashville, where Zack is learning music and starting to record some songs. On Tuesday I witnessed to Amir, a Berkeley student from Iran. He asked me about evidence that Christianity is true. I showed him some of the Old Testament prophesies that were fulfilled by Jesus.

    On Tuesday, Jeff spoke with a different man named Zack. He said he used to harass us when he saw our team on the streets. He said he would try to come up with intellectual arguments to mock us. Now, however, he is a Christian! On Thursday, Paul spoke with a man who was selling pornographic videos from a cart. At first, he tried to justify his actions, but eventually he admitted that what he was doing was wrong. Terry spoke with Filipa, a woman from England. She asked her, "Does God love gay people?" Terry said "yes" and ministered to her for an hour. Filipa was raped and beaten by her father, which she said is why she became a lesbian.

    On Friday, we witnessed at Haight St. near Masonic. Mary spoke with Pat, an Irish woman. Her son is a heroin addict. She said she wanted to know Jesus, and Mary prayed with her. She also ministered to a man who was heckling my preaching. He had played in a Christian worship band for 8 years, but was now very angry at the church, he said, for political reasons.

    That night, we also witnessed on Haight St. A large event had been planned that night involving local businesses and a street closing. The event was canceled, leaving our outreach the only thing going on. Frank spoke with Jesse, age 21, from New Jersey, who said he was interested in spiritual things. He shared his testimony and gave him a Bible. Later, he offered three people a New Testament as they passed by. Two said no, but one girl turned around and said she wanted one.

    We finished our outreach on Saturday afternoon at Dolores Park. It was a warm, sunny day, and by the end of the day there were at least 1000 people in the park. Tim, Paul and Chuck ministered with music and Larry DuBois and I preached to the crowd. At the end of the day, Jeff spoke with me. Jeff lived in our ministry house when he was 19. However, he has been backslidden into the homosexual life for 30 years now, and I had not spoken with him for about 20 years. He gave me his email address and asked me to contact him.

    Please pray for all those we ministered to during SOS week. I cannot begin to tell you everything that God did during this week. Loretta sent me daily emails with dozens of testimonies in them. Last week, I received three letters from prisoners who had somehow received one of our tracts. I want to thank all those who helped us during the SOS-San Francisco outreach, and especially Park Presidio Bible Church for once again opening up their facility to us.

    Yours in His Love,

    Larry Rosenbaum

    For the full article, including photos, go to:

    SOS - San Francisco Outreach Report

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  11. Thanks much, Jeff.

    Witnessing in Utah and San Fran...mega work to two groups, the LDS & homosexuals that are not generally intellectually friendly to each other or the gospel.

    What a world we live in...

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  12. I agree it's not the best thing to drink!! Actually, I would say it's the worst! How can someone try it? People are insane...

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  13. Thanks, Aline.:)

    My comment:

    'An animal eats the grains of the coffee without triturating them or digesting them, arriving at the end of its unbroken digestive system. These grains are collected, higienizados and torrados and then they are ready for the consumption. If they knew, would give up IN the HOUR!' (Translated from Portuguese).

    Aline, I would not want to drink this coffee either.

    Well, I am going to watch Celtic-Arsenal on t.v.:)

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  14. photos of Michael Jackson and the Gold Coast? wonderfully random!

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  15. Thanks, I try to be a little unpredictable and quite entertaining, among other things.

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  16. God the source of all wisdom is now being boxed from our own limited wisdom... uhm i dont know if im making any sense hehe got hooked with your cool videos. Actually I am more into the marvel superheroes than the DC.. I used to collect spider-man stuffs ^_^

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  17. Thanks, Miel.

    We do have limited knowledge, but God can save us anyway. My brand new satire and theology article is related with less citations.

    Please check out my kingpinned comic book collection blog:

    kingpinned

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  18. Everyone, PLEASE pray for Rifqa Bary, a 17-year-old girl from Sri Lanka who became a Christian and fled from her Muslim father in Ohio, to stay with a Pastor in Orlando, Florida, because her Muslim father wants her dead, because she became a Christian. The DCF has now taken her away from the Pastor's custody and has placed her in a foster home for the time being. Her court hearing is tomorrow, Friday, Aug. 21st. If the DCF sends her back to Ohio, her father will murder her, as he has promised to do. For more information, please see my latest blog post, including the comments. An estimated 5,000 "honor killings" occur each year.

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  19. No Green Lantern, Iron Man or Iron Lantern is going to stop ME!

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  20. Hi Aline,

    I am finalizing my PhD revisions and then will look for work as a professor.

    Russ:)

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  21. So the Enlightenment puts greater emphasis on the human mind comprehending God, whereas traditional Christianity puts emphasis on Scripture inspired by God, which must teach human beings about God.

    Very interesting Russ,

    I believe the Holy Spirit is our teacher and reveals truths to us and may bring us some enlightenment spiritually through and on behalf of the study of God's Word.

    Great thoughts here! :)

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  22. 'So the Enlightenment puts greater emphasis on the human mind comprehending God, whereas traditional Christianity puts emphasis on Scripture inspired by God, which must teach human beings about God.'

    Correct, Tamela. Well done and thanks.

    This is also a difference in varying degrees between culturally Christian academia of the moderate to far left that often works in secular Universities or in colleges affiliated and Biblical Christian academia of the moderate to far right, that works in Christian institutions and sometimes secular ones, but to a lesser extent in comparison to the first group.

    I find moderates of the right (especially) and left the most useful to read academically. I am a moderate conservative.

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  23. "Hulk SMASH puny Norse idol with own hammer!"

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  24. Thank you for enlightenment article, very interesting, perhaps a human's reasoning can be flawed and should not be fully trusted when taken to the extreme, although our reasoning capabilities are quite helpful and I believe God given.
    -Think Tank-

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  25. Hulk is STRONG and POWERFUL, takes on the Avengers! Where are you Silver Surfer?? Superman?? Its time to kick Mr. Purple Pant's #@#$
    -Comic Book Bugger-

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  26. "Hulk SMASH puny Norse idol with own hammer!"

    True. How about the Hulk versus the Jolly Green Giant...ho ho ho.

    Cheers.

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  27. Dear Bugger,

    Silver Surfer and Superman would bring victory for the Avengers and company.

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  28. That's nice. Enjoy your weekend too!! Talk to you soon..

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  29. I envy you to the max with your comic books... oh geez.. will visit it often

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  30. Thanks, Miel.

    Those are the ones I can afford as most of the more expensive ones I have received came as gifts.

    I do have bigger dreams though as in buying some books worth three figures.;)

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  31. I cant wait for the batman/super man video to come out. I love batman. Rick b

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  32. I am a Batman fan as well. I look forward to buying the DVD.

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  33. Most people think that Brasil is just football and carnaval. But it's not. We have a great voleyball team, great Olympic Gymnasts, besides of course strong hotels, gastronomy, beautiful parks, diferent kinds of parties, a strong business tourism, mountains, beaches, advanced agronomy, and so much more!

    That's how we get money here trought the tourism ;)

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  34. Brasil has a lot to offer I agree, but I still think football could be a draw as well.

    Russ;)

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