Thursday, October 01, 2009

The philosophical problem of evil


New Westminster, BC (photo from trekearth.com)

Please note, although this was written in 2003, it is still a major focus of my current secular PhD work.

From MPhil

2. The Philosophical Problem of Evil

McGrath pointed out a weakness with the philosophical discussion and stated his desire to concentrate on a theological remedy to the problem of evil within his work.

Quote:

Many of the theological and philosophical texts I have wrestled with seem to be much more concerned with upholding the integrity of a God who seems to allow suffering, than with saying anything helpful to those who are bewildered and confused by that suffering. I can think of few things less helpful to someone going through pain than a sophisticated theological defence of the integrity of God, or even a gentle romp through the subtle logic of necessary evil.

Now that kind discussion needs to take place. But it happens too often without any consideration of the anguish of those who need comforting and reassuring in the face of their sadness. Suffering is a pastoral and spiritual issue, not just a theological problem. In the book, I have not the slightest intention of presenting myself either as a spokesman or as some kind of defence attorney for God. God is perfectly capable of looking after himself. The real issue is not about defending God’s honour or integrity, but about making sense of our experience. McGrath (1992: 8-9).

McGrath is espousing a viewpoint similar to one that I took with my Graduating Essay at Trinity Western University. The philosophical discussion concerning the problem of evil is beneficial but the theological remedy is often overlooked in theological works since the critics of God and Christianity have, in the past, attacked the notion of the infinite, omnipotent, perfectly holy God who has evil existing within his creation.

For people suffering with the problem of evil, and that includes all human beings, the theological remedy to evil and suffering through Christ must be a vital part of theological apologetics. It can complement the philosophical discussion, and the revelation of God should be considered.

Carl Henry wrote: "Not even theistic arguments can fully vindicate God’s graciousness in the face of human evil if they appeal simply to empirical consideration or to philosophical reasoning devoid of revelational illumination." Henry (1983: 282).

Henri Blocher had the same sentiment but in slightly stronger terms. In his text Evil and the Cross:

The failure of the explanations of evil that we have examined as exposed in our preceding chapters, taking them according to their fundamental types, shows them for what they are, when confronted with experience and when the concepts are analysed. But it is Divine Revelation which reveals truly and with complete certainty. Holy Scripture, the Word of God, the ‘normative norm,’ is the only standard which allows us to distinguish between those insights which agree with it, and those all too human false trails in those systems of thought. Blocher (1994: 84).

Both Henry and Blocher share with McGrath the idea that in the philosophical problem of evil discussion it is not as central to Christianity as the theological remedy provided through Christ’s atoning work. However, I think Blocher’s words are slightly too strong by calling the explanations of the problem of evil a failure. Yes, the philosophical discussion is limited but it deals with issues not solved within the theological remedy. He is correct in that the theological remedy alone provides complete certainty of the end of suffering. That certainty, however, does not deal with some philosophical questions raised, although it could be argued that the answers to those philosophical questions will no longer matter once people do not suffer. Critics, however, need to see that Christianity is philosophically feasible in order to accept the possibility that divine revelation leads to the defeat of the problem of evil.

I think, however, the philosophical discussion needs to be complemented by the theological remedy. I can understand McGrath’s perspective on suffering as in many post-Enlightenment works the faith has been under attack because of the problem of evil. The attacks were of a philosophical nature and thus dealt with so, but ultimately the defence of Christianity comes down to divine revelation. McGrath stated in Iustitia Dei:

The central teaching of the Christian faith is that reconciliation has been effected between and God and sinful man through Jesus Christ, and that this new relation between God and man is a present possibility for those outside the church, and a present actuality for those within its bounds. McGrath (1986: 1).

Since to McGrath this is the central teaching, it makes sense in apologetics featuring the problem of evil, that the work of Jesus Christ in atonement which includes restoration and reconciliation, must be central. He thus thinks discussions on the problem of evil that do not deal with this in strong fashion, are lacking. Suffering was written to comfort those struggling with the problem of evil and to inform them that ultimate victory over suffering will be had through Jesus Christ.

BLOCHER, HENRI. (1994) Evil and the Cross, Translated by David G. Preston, Leicester, Inter-Varsity Press.

HENRY, CARL. (1983) God, Revelation and Authority: Volume 6: God Who Stands and Stays, Waco, Word Books.

McGRATH, ALISTER. (1986) Iustitia Dei, Cambridge, Cambridge University Press.

McGRATH, ALISTER (1992) Bridge-Building, Leicester, Inter-Varsity Press.

McGRATH, ALISTER (1992) Suffering, London, Hodder and Stoughton Limited.


New Westminster, BC (photo from trekearth.com)

The dangers of theological error...

On a British comedy television program in 2004, Jonathan Ross stated that a Muslim extremist suicide bomber was expecting to be taken to heaven where he would be rewarded with 72 virgins.

Instead he was given a 72 year old virgin.

Among some in the radical liberal church my blogs should be as popular as head lice in a hair salon.

I just posted this on Jeff's blog in comments:

Jeff

The New Testament claims Christ is God, for example: John 1, the word, John 8: 58, eternal.

Islam denies this theological point.

New Testament manuscript and partial manuscript evidence supports traditional Christian theology.

There is no evidence of great significant corruption of historical New Testament documents, in regard to content and theology.

Religious movements that claim Christ as a prophet or being sent from God, and yet deny the New Testament in context, lack credibility.



From Scripture Jesus Christ is noted as eternal (John 8:58) and is the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end. (Revelation 22:13). Christ is God. Christ's resurrection from the dead and his overall support from historically based Scripture provides him with a huge edge in the credibility department.

Mr. Avatar Adi Da Samraj falsely claims to be the supremely great spiritual being.

A few thoughts

Quotations and my comments in brackets.

- Save the whales. Collect the whole set. (I keep hearing about saving the gay whales, or it is the gays in Wales?)

- Why do psychics have to ask you for your name? (Hint...those ones are phony.)


CD burner for sale.

50 comments:

  1. Russ, I do enjoy reading your words and thank you for keeping us posted on how the PhD is progressing. It is evident that you have put great effort into your studies, and are ready for that appointment.
    My comments, which are not as eloquent maybe as you could state, are thoughts of my own re the subject of evil.

    Evil comes in many forms, all of which can 'hurt' to some degree, and some have very long lasting effects. How do we survive? The best and only way is by turning all over to God, and asking for knowledge and wisdom to deal with the evil whatever it may be. True friends are so welcome at that time! If you are a true friend to the one suffering you can aide just by being there. Words are often not enough but being close in friendship, giving of hugs, crying with them, praying for them, encouraging them to express exactly how they feel and have that person 'vent' to whatever level will express their thoughts and feelings at the time. Encourage them to vent until there is nothing left but emptiness. Be there to listen! When they have emptied all, pray the love of God will fill that emptiness with a peace! Encourage them to pray with you. Though they are in tears, they will hear your quiet way of telling them to remember that it was Jesus who suffered so terribly from the evil of the crowd who decided it was He who should be crucified rather than the criminal. Through that suffering all who ask will be forgiven.
    Hurts can take many years to heal, so remain a close friend. Over time healing will take place. With your love and the love of God, prayerfully that healing will ultimately come to forgiveness for the evil committed, and peace will follow. Be a very true and valued friend by just being there! That to me is what I believe to be the theological way. That is what Jesus does for you - he is a true and perfect friend!

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  2. 'Evil comes in many forms, all of which can 'hurt' to some degree, and some have very long lasting effects. How do we survive? The best and only way is by turning all over to God, and asking for knowledge and wisdom to deal with the evil whatever it may be.'

    In Christ is the best way.

    'True friends are so welcome at that time! If you are a true friend to the one suffering you can aide just by being there.'

    Good point.

    Thanks for the essay.:)

    Russ

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  3. thekingpin68 disse...

    "It looks like I am commenting while you are posting.;)"

    You're so funny!!!
    Nice pictures of the sky.

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  4. As far as the practical aspect of "the problem of evil", I think anonymous said it better than I ever could.

    Philosophically/Theologically speaking the Problem of Evil is an interesting intellectual sport, but as McGrath alludes, the actual suffering of a real person in the flesh, so-to-speak, because of "evil" is not usually alleviated by theoretical considerations. Having said that, however, I think the very fact that people recognize "evil" proves that they really do believe that God exists but that they suppress this knowlege in unrighteousness (per Romans). The Christian can account for the presence of evil; the unbeliever has no justification for even talking about the concept of evil.

    Without the existence of God there is no such thing as "good" or "evil". So in my mind there really is no problem with "evil", per say; the "problem" is with the unbeliever, that he/she can even speak about evil all the while denying the God of all moral values and judgement!

    Anyway, that's my $0.02!

    GGM

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  5. 'As far as the practical aspect of "the problem of evil", I think anonymous said it better than I ever could.'

    Mom, I told you someone would like your essay.

    'Philosophically/Theologically speaking the Problem of Evil is an interesting intellectual sport, but as McGrath alludes, the actual suffering of a real person in the flesh, so-to-speak, because of "evil" is not usually alleviated by theoretical considerations.'

    Yes, it needs to be tied to the atoning and resurrection work of Christ and the future culminated Kingdom of God.

    'Without the existence of God there is no such thing as "good" or "evil".'

    I think the existence of a first cause, perfectly good God presented in the Bible, makes the distinction between good and evil far more clear.

    Thanks my friend.

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  6. Thanks for the link and the support, Russ!

    Among some in the radical liberal church my blogs should be as popular as head lice in a hair salon.

    LOL!

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  7. GGM said it well.

    The 'problem of evil' is often used by unbelievers as an excuse not to surrender to God/Christ.

    But that is like someone saying, "Look at all the people in the world who have serious injuries, or who have birth defects. Since this is the case, there can't be any such thing as hospitals or doctors. For, if there were really any hospitals or doctors, then nobody would be sick, injured, crippled, etc. Since there are so many people who have things wrong with them physically, and who have had physical injuries or defects for many years and even all their life, then that is proof that hospitals do not exist."

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  8. Reasons to believe philosophically:


    Scripture and related theology.

    Philosophy of religion.

    Related disciplines.

    Common sense and experience.

    Therefore, I do not primarily or in a major way believe or disbelieve in God based on how he treats persons.


    Cheers, Jeff.

    I made up the salon joke all by myself.:)

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  9. Adi Da or is it La Di Da??
    Whatever, This guy is at the height of arrogance self proclaiming himself as the Chosen One!! Get Real Buddy, its time for you to do some serious self reflection on your unreal and false views of yourself.
    -Philosopher Rant-

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  10. Thanks for the post again though I have to reread to understand them all in my minute brain whew...

    the only things I can remember is the 72 yo virgin LOL and the gay in Wales...

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  11. Weeeeeee are the champions, my friend!!

    And weeeeee'll keep on fighting 'til the eeeeend!!!

    rs rs rs rs rs...

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  12. Congrats.

    Too bad for Obama/Oprah.

    Blame it on Rio.;)

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  13. I made up the salon joke all by myself.:)

    Cool!

    Anonymous said...

    Adi Da or is it La Di Da??
    Whatever, This guy is at the height of arrogance self proclaiming himself as the Chosen One!! Get Real Buddy, its time for you to do some serious self reflection on your unreal and false views of yourself.
    -Philosopher Rant-


    That's right! Everybody knows that Barack Obama is the Chosen One! ;)

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  14. The CD burner is cool, but I'm looking for a DVD burner. ;)

    As you briefly alluded to, the problem of evil and suffering is two-fold: its existence in general and its existence in my own life.

    I believe that evil and suffering are necessary parts of God's plan. We are often bettered by the challenges in our lives, and there is no question in my mind that the Holy Spirit gets far more glory by helping us overcome temptation, than if we were never tempted in the first place. Else why wouldn't Jesus have skipped His 40 days or temptation in the desert?

    Good post, Russ!

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  15. Obama and Oprah were just crushed by Rio...LOL.;)

    "Pele, in a speech on behalf of Rio de Janeiro's bid to host the 2016 Olympic Games, tried to chide the competing bid from Chicago by pointing out that its big sports hero was absent from the Windy City's delegation. But Pele said "Michael Jackson," the dead pop star, instead of Michael Jordan, the basketball legend.

    When the laughter died down Pele tried to recover with a joke about "Two Michaels," but Brazilian press worried that the gaffe would scupper the Rio bid."
    Soccer America Daily

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  16. The problem of evil is currently in the White House. That's my take, anyway. ;)

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  17. 'The CD burner is cool, but I'm looking for a DVD burner. ;)'

    It also burns DVDs and with an expanded version, old 45s.

    'As you briefly alluded to, the problem of evil and suffering is two-fold: its existence in general and its existence in my own life.'

    Philosophically and practically.

    'Good post, Russ!'

    Cheers, Greg.

    We have the problem of evil.

    We have historical Scripture that recognizes evil.

    The solution to evil is the divine work of atonement and resurrection, and culminated Kingdom.

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  18. 'But Pele said "Michael Jackson," the dead pop star, instead of Michael Jordan, the basketball legend.

    When the laughter died down Pele tried to recover with a joke about "Two Michaels," but Brazilian press worried that the gaffe would scupper the Rio bid."'

    Ow!

    The problem of evil is caused by a lot of Western governments.:)

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  19. The real issue is not about defending God’s honour or integrity, but about making sense of our experience. McGrath (1992: 8-9).

    Hello Russ,
    This post reminded me of a faith discussion that i was having with a friend yesterday. The statement quoted above was the direction i was trying to go in. This person was a faith-filled believer who boasts in having authority over sickness and it has no right to come nigh to her being.
    Her stand was, that her faith is such that she will never get sick because Jesus took sickness upon himself when He bore the cross so she wouldn't have too thusly she was given power over sickness in and thru Jesus.
    What brought this up was that she was annoyed by the fear talk of swine flu and being vaccinated for it.
    She was saying that as a faith-filled believer all that needed to be done was to claim the blood of Jesus and tell sickness that it has no right and cannot come nigh you in Jesus name!
    I made the statement that there are faith-filled people just as herself and believes as she does but yet find themselves sick and now they are trying to make sense of it all.
    These are the same people who will hang onto "hope" by placing their trust in God. And by doing this it is a show of their "faith" in Him for their healing.
    For faith is the substance of things "hoped" for and the "evidence" of things not seen.
    I made mention of the scriptures of being more than a conqueoror and an overcomer, and that can only be done thru the working of the power of the Holy Spirit in us, for we can do all things thru Christ Jesus who gives us the strength. I truly believe that there are faith filled christians conqueoring and overcoming things in their lives via the power of the Holy Spirit to this very day.
    I also made mention of the Apostle Paul and used the example of the venemous snake that came out of the fire and bit him, but yet the poison had no power over him. I am sure he probably felt the sting of the bite but the venum caused him no harm.
    I was explaining to her that just as the snake bit Paul this is also how sickness can attack a faith-filled believer. It might attack but it will not prosper for it is not a sting as unto death.
    She had her ideas of "Faith" wrapped up in a box and no variating.
    I explained to her that faith is what pleases God in whatever way it shines forth. "For faith is like a diamond with many facets and it will shine forth as the LIGHT hits it at different angles."
    I made mention of the scriptures "By His stripes we "were" healed, and by His stripes we "are" healed, because these are scriptures that faith filled believers stand on for their spiritual healing as well as their physical healing.
    She took the example of faith being the diamond with many facets as meaning if you have great faith as to never get sick then you won't get sick but if your faith is such that you believe that there is a possibility that you might get sick but yet believe for healing then You will be healed when you get sick!
    So my next question is, because the snake bit Paul does this make his faith less than yours? afterall according to what you are saying is that if Paul would of had great faith he would of never got bit to begin with?
    To say that one is attacked with sickness because they didn't have strong enough faith is not an answer that sufficeth because #1 That is not necessarily true. This person might have great faith and maybe even greater faith, and when they get healed it will be an awesome testimony of great faith and a miracle from God!
    According to the scripture you can have faith as a grain of mustard seed (which is very tiny)and yet move mountains.
    That was our dilemma..
    Sorry to go on for so long but this was an interesting post and i thought i would share this. Maybe you have more thoughts of your own on this topic that you would like to share.

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  20. Thanks, Tamela.

    1 John 5:14-15 (New American Standard Bible)

    14This is (A)the confidence which we have before Him, that, (B)if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us.

    15And if we know that He hears us in whatever we ask, (C)we know that we have the requests which we have asked from Him.

    There is evil and suffering.

    Human beings (almost always if they are mentally healthy) do not like suffering.

    God is aware of all suffering.

    God is aware of all prayers.

    God will only grant what is at least within his permissible will in regard to any type of relief.

    I think we basically agree.

    Russ:)

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  21. Sign seen:
    Clairvoyants meeting cancelled due to unforeseen events.

    For you Mr. T fans that are not in Britain, here are some funny ads done for Snickers:
    Banned speedwalker commercial
    Football diver
    Toe dipper
    Get some nuts rant

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  22. Mr. T interviewed by Bill O'Reilly about the banned commercial.

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  23. Evil is a sensitive issue because it is a topic which is hard to comprehend and understand. Our interpretation of evil often involves more than intellect, it includes emotion, memories, and pain as we try to understand evil and its effects on us and our world.
    -Mad about Bad-

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  24. 'Evil is a sensitive issue because it is a topic which is hard to comprehend and understand.'

    And I am glad I have studied it.

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  25. Rio de Janeiro got 66 votes, and Obama and Chicago only got 18! LOL! Even Tokyo, which was trailing behind all along, did better than Obama! Love it! Maybe I should be more respectful to Obama, but I think Obama needs to learn some humility anyway.

    On Chucky's Mr. T video:
    "Men lift weights; men play contact shorts; men shouldn't do anything in tight lycra shorts!" LOL!

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  26. God will only grant what is at least within his permissible will in regard to any type of relief.

    Thanks Russ, that opens the door to a whole lot of other thoughts on faith that i am having right now.. but i will think on this for awhile.. Thanks again :)

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  27. "For God's will is so much the highest rule of righteousness that whatever he wills, by the very fact that he wills it, must be considered righteous. When, therefore, one asks why God has so done, we must reply: because he has willed it. But if you proceed further to ask why he so willed, you are seeking something greater and higher than God's will, which cannot be found. Let men's rashness, then, restrain itself, and not seek what does not exist, lest perhaps it fail to find what does exist." ~John Calvin (Institutes, III, xxiii, 2)

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  28. 'Rio de Janeiro got 66 votes, and Obama and Chicago only got 18! LOL! Even Tokyo, which was trailing behind all along, did better than Obama! Love it! Maybe I should be more respectful to Obama, but I think Obama needs to learn some humility anyway.

    On Chucky's Mr. T video:
    "Men lift weights; men play contact shorts; men shouldn't do anything in tight lycra shorts!" LOL!'

    Mr. T is from Chicago...

    'My kind of town.
    Chicago is my kind of town.'

    I guess not all agree.;););)

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  29. Thanks, Tamela.

    I am glad we can learn together as Bloggers.

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  30. ...but it burns me up that we must cow-tow to certain groups of people, and be so afraid that we might accidentally offend them, simply because those groups practice certain perverted, filthy, wicked, disgusting sinful abominations that God condemns.'

    Christians should be respectful to others with different worldviews, in a democracy, especially (although limited).

    Christians should take a stand for truth.

    Christians should work together, when needed.

    Conservatives (and supporters) should work together, when needed.

    These things can better protect gospel influence.

    Also, I agree with the Calvin citation.

    Thanks, Jeff.

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  31. 'I don't see homosexuality as a worldview.'

    I agree. It is a leaning and lifestyle accepted by many within non-Christian worldviews.

    Thanks!

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  32. "Voddie Baucham answers the age old question, if God is so powerful and good, why do bad things happen? This is a clip of a message Voddie Baucham gave at the 2006 Desiring God National Conference."
    If God is so powerful and so good, why do bad things happen? - Voddie Baucham

    "Drawing an analogy from military training, Father Corapi speaks of spiritual training, spiritual weapons and tactics, and the key to being a good soldier or a good Christian: To serve, not to be served. "Immorality is unAmerican and a threat to national security," has become a battle cry for many seeking to bring us back to the moral uprightness we once took pride in."
    New War/Old War

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  33. You are right! The brazilian football team is the best! I bet they'll win the FIFA 2014 WC.

    Thanks for your comments. Have a good week!

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  34. Today the Lord took care of me in a wonderful way.

    My late dad used to always harp on me about checking the water, oil, transmission fluid, etc. in my car. Well, ever since he died, I have neglected to do that, except one time when my youngest brother, who also has very strong mechanical talent and skill like my dad did, checked everything for me and replaced the filters, etc. a couple years ago.

    Well, the other week, a lady who worked at Publix bagged my groceries and volunteered to push my cart out for me. As we were talking, she told me how she is divorced and on her own, and, as a result, learned to work on the car herself. She asked me about my car, and told me I should make sure to check the oil, water, etc. As a result, I began to check those things, and found that the oil, etc. were just about completely dry! I am sure God caused that lady to tell me those things, because I have been praying about my car to God.

    Well, yesterday, I put oil in the car (the dipstick was only wet at the very tip, so it was practically a miracle that the engine hasn't burned up already!). Today, on the way home from church, I was moved to stop and buy some coolant and washer fluid. After that, I stopped at the drive-thru at Burger King. Well, before I drove away from the drive-thru window, my car started making loud noises and smoking! I pulled into a parking space and turned off the engine to let it cool down. Since I had
    only just stopped minutes before to buy coolant, I had the coolant readily available in my car to put it in the car, after it cooled down, and I was able to drive home safely without any real problem! The Lord worked out the timing of everything perfectly! Praise God!

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  35. One semester of philosophy is taken.

    A few philosophy books are read.

    The goodness of reality is questioned.

    God is put in the docks.


    God is significantly understood from Scripture.

    God regenerates the elect.

    Human evil is significantly understood.

    God is not placed in the docks.

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  36. 'You are right! The brazilian football team is the best! I bet they'll win the FIFA 2014 WC.'

    Brazil seemingly has the most good players and many times has had the best team in the World Cup.

    I reason they are the favourites at home.

    'Thanks for your comments. Have a good week!'

    Welcome and thank you, too.

    Have a good week, as well.:)

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  37. Jeff, when I was 19 I had a car leak oil and run out of oil.

    The engine ceased and died.

    Blessings my friend.

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  38. Jeff, when I was 19 I had a car leak oil and run out of oil.

    The engine ceased and died.


    Not good. Mechanical, electrical and electronic devices, and especially computers, created to make life easier for us, can often have problems, and make life more difficult.

    Blessings my friend.

    A question for you. Someone asked me this recently, but no matter how much I attempted to explain it, it was like talking to a brick wall. I was wondering how you would approach it. The question is, If Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, then why does He command us to obey the Commandments?

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  39. The law is impossible to follow perfectly for the unregenerate person. Galatians 2, Romans 3-4.

    The law is impossible to follow perfectly for the regenerated person. Romans 6-7, 1 John 1.

    Readers are told to obey the commandments. Mathew 22, Mark 12.

    We are to struggle and progress in Christ. Romans 6-7, Ephesians 2, Philippians 1: 21-26, Philippians 4: 13.

    The resurrected person in Christ shall be perfectly good. 1 Corinthians 15, Revelation 20-22.

    A non-exhaustive explanation that makes sense to me.

    Cheers, Jeff.

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  40. Spencer: Obama Declares War on Free Speech

    "The Obama Administration has now actually co-sponsored an anti-free speech resolution at the United Nations. Approved by the U.N. Human Rights Council last Friday, the resolution, cosponsored by the U.S. and Egypt, calls on states to condemn and criminalize "any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence."

    What could be wrong with that? Plenty."

    "Incitement" and "hatred" are in the eye of the beholder -- or more precisely, in the eye of those who make such determinations. The powerful can decide to silence the powerless by classifying their views as "hate speech." The Founding Fathers knew that the freedom of speech was an essential safeguard against tyranny: the ability to dissent, freely and publicly and without fear of imprisonment or other reprisal, is a cornerstone of any genuine republic. If some ideas cannot be heard and are proscribed from above, the ones in control are tyrants, however benevolent they may be."

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  41. Cheers, Jeff.

    Obama awarded 2009 Nobel Peace Prize...

    Far too soon.

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  42. From Facebook:

    Russ Murray thekingpin68© of Maple Ditch, BC awards: Saint Chucklins the Noble Computer and Family Guy Prize. JJ and JJ Jenkins and Jolly the Noble Long Commenter Prize. Mommy, the Noble Typist and Proofreader Prize.

    Meaningful, eh.;)

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  43. I really enjoy reading your blog. I'm learning alot about God, my self, the extent of His love for me and what He expects of me, and everything else in between. I like reading from blogs that make me feel good about myself, that make me feel comforted and make me smile. My coworkers do as well; I'm always finding something to send to them, hoping they get inspired by them. I have a 14 year old nephew that is being raised in the church, and he comes to me with certain questions about God, and I find myself thinking about something I've read in your blog, in order to answer his question, so thanks.

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  44. Thanks, Daij, for helping me to learn as well.

    Russ:)

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