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Theism and Deism
John S. Feinberg states that theism is literally the belief in the existence of God. The term may be recent and a counter to the seventeenth century terms deism and deistic and is used as the opposite of atheist. Feinberg (1996: 1080). Feinberg writes the term theist is used for religious believers and those who hold to certain philosophical and theological positions without necessarily being religious. Feinberg (1996: 1080).
Richard G. Swinburne explains that theism is the idea that there exists a God that is personal, without a body, omnipotent, omniscient, free, and the creator of the universe. Christians, Jews, and Muslims are all theists. Swinburne (1999: 562). Swinburne states that God is personal in theism as he acts intentionally to bring about purposes and has knowledge of all things. Swinburne (1999: 562-563).
M.H. Macdonald writes that deism describes an unorthodox religious view expressed among readers in the first half of the seventeenth century, most notably Lord Herbert of Cherbury. Macdonald (1996: 304). Deism is from the Latin for deus, in contrast, to theos from the Greek. Macdonald (1999: 304). Deism is different than theism and is connected to natural religion that thinks religious knowledge is gained through reason and not revelation or church doctrines. Macdonald (1996: 304). There is a belief in a supreme being, but this being is not directly involved in the affairs of his creation. Macdonald (1996: 304). Therefore, the revelation of the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament would be denied as actually occurring, and the gospel and related doctrines would be denied. In agreement with Christianity, it would be an understanding of God as the first cause and the creator of universal laws. Macdonald (1996: 305). David A. Pailin, my brief former academic advisor, writes that deism is often in parallel to theism. Pailin (1999: 148).
In modern times deism is used to define a supreme being who is the ultimate source of reality but does not intervene in the natural and historical processes through revelation or salvific acts. Pailin (1999: 148). Pailin writes that the common use of the term ‘theism’ does not carry the same negative implications. Pailin (1999: 148). He explains that historically deism is not so much a set of doctrines, but a movement, largely British, that became popular in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. Pailin (1999: 148). Many within deism will have doubts concerning concepts of supernatural religious doctrines, revelation and the authority of the Bible. Pailin (1999: 148). Pailin notes that some within deism desire to replace Christianity with a more ‘reasonable’ faith, and for others, it is an attempt to produce a more ‘reasonable’ version of Christianity. Pailin (1999: 149).
William J. Wainwright explains that deism understands true religion as natural, as opposed to supernatural religion. Wainwright (1996: 188). He writes that some self-styled Christian deists accept revelation although they argue that the content is the same as natural religion. Wainwright (1996: 188). Most deists reject revelation as fiction, but many reason that God has ordained that human happiness is possible through natural means that are universally available. Wainwright (1996: 188). Salvation, therefore, does not come via divine revelation. Wainwright (1996: 188).
Accepting that human nature is corrupt as described in Romans 1-3, it is very unlikely that the problem of evil would ever be solved but rather merely treated by humanity if deism is true. There would at no time be any solution for sin, death, and the problem of evil since the infinite, omnipotent God would not interfere with his creation and through the gospel regenerate and change individuals in order to eventually establish the Kingdom of God where the problem of evil does not exist. With a deistic universe seemingly sin, death, and the problem of evil continue to exist as long as humanity does. Deism seemingly does not offer any ultimate solution to the problem of evil.
Theists and deists are different and deists could only possibly be considered theists in a sense, as there is a shared belief in a first cause creator that has personal consciousness and purpose in creation. But, for the most part, academically, deists should not be considered theists.
FEINBERG, JOHN S. (1996) ‘Theism’, in Walter A. Elwell (ed.), Evangelical Dictionary of Theology, Grand Rapids, Baker Books.
MACDONALD, M.H. (1996) ‘Deism’, in Walter A. Elwell (ed.), Evangelical Dictionary of Theology, Grand Rapids, Baker Books.
PAILIN, DAVID A. (1999) ‘Deism’, in Alan Richardson and John Bowden (eds.), New Dictionary of Christian Theology, Kent, SCM Press Ltd.
SWINBURNE, Richard G. (1999) ‘Theism’. in Alan Richardson and John Bowden (eds.), New Dictionary of Christian Theology, Kent, SCM Press Ltd.
WAINWRIGHT, WILLIAM J. (1996) ‘Deism’, in Robert Audi (ed.), The Cambridge Dictionary of Philosophy, Cambridge, Cambridge University Press.
Is this a new type of door-to-door pseudo-Christian cultist?
WAINWRIGHT, WILLIAM J. (1996) ‘Deism’, in Robert Audi (ed.), The Cambridge Dictionary of Philosophy, Cambridge, Cambridge University Press.
Is this a new type of door-to-door pseudo-Christian cultist?
Russ,
ReplyDeleteWith that, I must say I intentionally chose my URL ( http://deityquest.blogspot.com ) as it is the obvious draw and trap to have a chance to explain Theism.
Not really. I chose it as a lure. But, I may as well reassign my intentions. :)
Jim
Thanks, Jim.
ReplyDeleteYou could have embedded your URL as well with a tag. Jim is located at Journaling For Growth in my links.
Russ:)
Hey Russ,
ReplyDeleteI have had another visitor to my site that I would like for you to drop in on. I told her to expect visitors. Be an encourager.
The address is http://tamelasplace.blogspot.com/
Thanks, Jim. I will visit her blog.
ReplyDeleteThank you so much for the comment. I wanted to repay the favor and say how I enjoyed reading your blog i will put your link on my blog. I will come back and read what you have to write ever so often. I will make sure to tell my Dad about your blog as well as Jim's. What you guys have to say will really interest him as well. God Bless!
ReplyDeleteThanks, Tammy.
ReplyDeleteI have added you to my links as well, and I look forward to blogging with you and others, and Jim of course.
That lying-down polar bear needs a beer can or TV remote in his paw.
ReplyDeletePolar-Grizzly Hybrid discovered
ReplyDeleteChucky,
ReplyDeleteI saw a promotional advertisement for a PBS documentary that claimed that due to the melting arctic, Polar Bears and Grizzly Bears may overlap into each other's territory. The Grizzlies are heading north.
Nature
Cool Green Lantern!
ReplyDeleteIn brightest day,
In blackest night,
No evil shall escape my sight;
Let all who worship evil's might,
Beware my power! Green Lantern's light!
I still remember that 'poem' from when I was a kid.
Comic books are also the place where I learned the meaning of the word "vow."
Thanks, Jeff.
ReplyDeletePerhaps you need a Green Lantern guarding your blog as well. The black haired and blonde (the original) Lanterns are still available for hire.
We could have a Green Lantern network against the evil blog trolls.
Accepting that human nature is corrupt as described in Romans 1-3, it is very unlikely that the problem of evil would ever be solved but rather merely treated by humanity if deism is true. There would at no time be any solution for sin, death, and the problem of evil, since the infinite, omnipotent God would not interfere with his creation and through the gospel regenerate and change individuals in order to eventually establish a Kingdom of God where the problem of evil does not exist. With a deistic universe seemingly sin, death, and the problem of evil continue to exist as long as humanity does. Deism seemingly does not offer any ultimate solution to the problem of evil.
ReplyDeleteWhat about Utopia or Plato's Republic?
I have heard of both, but read neither.
ReplyDeletePerhaps you can further explain, Jeff.
Plato's Republic
ReplyDeleteIt states:
The excessive freedoms granted to the citizens of a democracy ultimately leads to a tyranny, the furthest regressed type of government. These freedoms divide the people into three socioeconomic classes: the dominating class, the capitalists and the commoners. Tensions between the dominating class and the capitalists causes the commoners to seek out protection of their democratic liberties. They invest all their power in their democratic demagogue, who, in turn, becomes corrupted by the power and becomes a tyrant with a small entourage of his supporters for protection and absolute control of his people.
Ironically, the ideal state outlined by Socrates closely resembles a tyranny, but they are on opposite ends of the spectrum. This is because the philosopher king who rules in the ideal state is not self-centered but is dedicated to the good of the state insofar as the philosopher king is the one with knowledge.
Thanks, Jeff.
ReplyDeletePerhaps you need a Green Lantern guarding your blog as well. The black haired and blonde (the original) Lanterns are still available for hire.
We could have a Green Lantern network against the evil blog trolls.
A Green Lantern Blog Corp. against blog trolls. Cool!
Hal Jordan is the only TRUE Green Lantern! All others are wannabes!
I always thought Alan Scott (blonde guy) of the Justice Society was in an alternate universe, but more lately I have understood that the Justice Society was actually before the Justice League.
The Green Lantern concept in comics is cool.
ReplyDeleteThe over reliance on the ring itself, and no other powers, such as incredible physical strength and fighting ability seems to be a weakness. The Lanterns seem comparable to Iron Man or the Marvel Captain Marvels in overall power. I doubt a Lantern is in the same league as Silver Surfer or Superman, that have a greater range of personal weapons.
But, I have not read that many comics, as much as they can be fun to collect in excellent condition.
Russ:)
Plato's Republic was, at least on one level, a description of a political utopia.
ReplyDeleteSir Thomas More's Utopia is largely based on Plato's Republic. It's a supposedly ideal society. It is a perfect version of Republic wherein the beauties of society reign (i.e., equality and a general pacifist attitude), although its citizens are all ready to fight if need be. The evils of society, eg: poverty and misery, are all removed.
I was relating this to mankind's attempt to dream of a heaven on earth. The idea of man evolving to such a degree where there would be no more crime (probably secular man's closest equivalent to the idea of redeemed man) is sometimes seen in such Utopian ideas.
Of course these are fictional, but the idea of a perfect society has been reflected in other books, Science Fiction movies, TV (such as in some Star Trek episodes), etc.
Shangri-La, in James Hilton's Lost Horizon, is a similar concept.
In The Matrix movies, Agent Smith says that the first Matrix was a utopia, but humans rejected it because they "define their reality through misery and suffering." Therefore, the Matrix was redesigned to simulate human civilization with all its suffering.
We cannot even manage a blogging utopia! It will not happen on a larger scale without God changing persons to the likeness of Christ.
ReplyDeleteCheers.:)
George Orwell's Animal Farm is probably a good picture of how man tries to create a perfect society himself, and what results from it.
ReplyDeleteNeither a sinless Heaven, nor another Garden of Eden, can be re-created by man.
Within Christianity, Dominion theology is becoming very popular, and I see some similarities between it (i.e., establishing God's Kingdom here on Earth through political and military means, preparing for or enabling the return of Christ) and mankind's hopes to create a Utopia on Earth.
We cannot even manage a blogging utopia!
ReplyDeleteLOL! Nope, not with trolls around.
A password-encrypted blog could keep out trolls, but it would also keep out visitors, as well.
Even Forums with sign-in memberships have their problems.
Peace on earth, and good will toward bloggers, but blog trolls mess things up.
ReplyDeletethanks Russ for the enlightening discourse...I have found it useful for my work...
ReplyDeleteThanks, JP.
ReplyDeleteRuss:)
There Are Trolls In My Blog!
ReplyDeleteThe thread of my blog
Is caustic and thin
Worn down by comments
Made from within
The trolls have appeared
And whisked it away
My intent and opinions
Disappeared with the day
Someone else's ideas
Contradict with my own
Write your own post
And leave mine alone!
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Jeff, create a Green Lantern warning graphic for blog trolls. We should have a network. Or use another superhero.
ReplyDeleteRuss:)
Hi Russ.
ReplyDeleteInteresting article again. Always learning something from you. Looked at this many years ago and have touched on it occasionally in my preaching and makes sense to me.
Regards,
Russell.
Thanks, Russell.
ReplyDeleteI enjoy the learning.
These two terms are good to differentiate.
Russ:)
Some of us can't do more than one thing at one time, so listening to the music while reading would be counter-productive! ;-)
ReplyDeleteI love that polar bear pic tho!
Thanks, Deejay.
ReplyDeleteAt least my music is always optional.;)
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Thanks, Jim.
ReplyDeleteI do not give awards out, but I do appreciate your blogs and networking with you.
Russ,
ReplyDeleteJeff, create a Green Lantern warning graphic for blog trolls. We should have a network. Or use another superhero.
My email has been down for 3 days now, so I have no easy way of sending you such a graphic. Well, actually, maybe that's not true. I could post it to my online Photoshop/Illustrator album or to my Photobucket account, and I'm sure you could get it from either of those. Hmmmm... remind me if I don't notify you in a day or two.
Russ,
ReplyDeleteOn second thought, I may need to wait until the weekend, when I have more time (I could use an existing image off the Internet and just add text, but I should probably create something from scratch). In any case, remind me if I don't notify you of anything in the next week or so.
My email has been down for 3 days now, so I have no easy way of sending you such a graphic.
ReplyDeleteI am sorry about your email problems. No worries Jeff, I am not asking you for a graphic. I was suggesting to you, and Rick in the satire and theology comments, that we could have similar type warnings for trolls. I am happy with my graphic as is.
Russ:)
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