Sunday, November 11, 2007

Fatalism


Edinburgh, Scotland (photo from trekearth.com)

Edinburgh: 1995

I find a rare Jazz Fusion unofficial CD, featuring an artist I was looking for at a flea market. I explain this to the seller and he states. ‘It was fate’ with a strong Scottish accent. ‘Pardon’ I said, ‘It was fate’, he stated. I thought he had said ‘It was fiit’.

Last week someone at church asked me if my views within my MPhil and PhD dissertations, which feature compatibilism, also known as soft determinism, are equated with fatalism. I reason that I do not hold to fatalism. Here is a comparison between compatibilism/soft determinism, fatalism and hard determinism. Thanks to Big D for the idea.

Compatibilism/soft determinism:

P.S. Greenspan writes that compatibilism holds to free will and determinism being compatible. Greenspan (1998: 1). Louis P. Pojman, defines compatibilism as the concept that an act can be entirely determined and yet be free in the sense that it was done voluntarily and without compulsion. Pojman (1996: 596). J.S. Feinberg explains that compatibilism does not allow for coercion or force, but holds that God, or some outside force, can simultaneously determine with the use of persuasion, that an action will or will not take place. Feinberg (1986: 24). Feinberg writes that certain nonconstraining conditions could strongly influence actions, in conjunction with human free will performing these actions. Feinberg (1994: 60). With this viewpoint, there will be no contradiction in stating that God would create human beings who were significantly free, unconstrained, and yet committed actions that God willed. Feinberg (2001: 637). W.T. Stace (1952)(1976) explains that moral responsibility is consistent with determinism in the context of soft determinism and requires it. Stace (1952)(1976: 29). If human actions are uncaused then reward or punishment would be unjustified. Stace (1952)(1976: 29). Stace reasons that there must be at least some human cause within human actions to make them morally responsible acts. Stace (1952)(1976: 30).

Fatalism compared with hard determinism:

Simon Blackburn comments that this is the doctrine that human action has no influence on events. Blackburn (1996: 137). Blackburn gives the opinion that fatalism is wrongly confused with determinism, which by itself carries no implications that human actions have no effect. Blackburn (1996: 137). Tomis Kapitan notes that determinism is usually understood as meaning that whatever occurs is determined by antecedent (preceding cause) conditions. Kapitan (1999: 281). Pojman states that hard determinism holds that every event is caused and no one is responsible for actions, whereas soft determinism holds that rational creatures can be held responsible for determined actions as long as they are done voluntarily and without force or coercion. Pojman (1996: 586).

Fatalism should not be equated with compatibilism/soft determinism, but if fatalism states that no human actions can influence or cause events, and hard determinism holds that human beings do not cause actions or are morally responsible, there is clearly a similarity in definitions. D.G. Bloesch explains that fate is not chance, but instead is cosmic determinism that has no meaning or purpose. Bloesch (1996: 407). He writes that fate/fatalism would differ from a Christian idea of divine providence and its implied use of determinism, in that fatalism is impersonal and irrational, whereas providence is personal and rational. Bloesch (1996: 407). Thiessen comments that fatalism is not determinism because fatalism holds that all events are caused by fate, and not natural causes, and nothing can change these events. Determinism in contrast, holds that all events occur by necessity. Thiessen (1956: 186). Compatibilism and soft determinism does hold that what God determines must happen by necessity, but reasons that rational beings with a significant use of free will are not coerced or forced to commit acts, which must occur by necessity. A person can hold to hard determinism and believe that God determined all events without the significant use of free will of rational creatures, and a fatalist can also believe that events are determined without the use of significant free will of rational creatures, and yet this is caused without any meaning, and without the understanding that God or any rational entity is behind these events.

BLACKBURN, SIMON (1996) ‘Fatalism’, in Oxford Dictionary of Philosophy, p. 137. Oxford, Oxford University Press.

BLOESCH, D. (1996) ‘Fate, Fatalism’, in Walter A. Elwell (ed.), Evangelical Dictionary of Theology, Grand Rapids, Baker Books.

FEINBERG, JOHN S. (1986) Predestination and Free Will, David Basinger and Randall Basinger (eds.), Downers Grove, Illinois, InterVarsity Press.

FEINBERG, JOHN S. (1994) The Many Faces of Evil, Grand Rapids, Zondervan Publishing House.

FEINBERG, JOHN S. (2001) No One Like Him, John S. Feinberg (gen.ed.), Wheaton, Illinois, Crossway Books.

GREENSPAN, P.S. (1998) Free Will and Genetic Determinism: Locating the Problem (s), Maryland, University of Maryland.
http://www.philosophy.umd.edu/Faculty/PGreenspan/Res/gen2.html

KAPITAN, TOMIS (1996) ‘Free Will Problem’, in Robert Audi (ed.), The Cambridge Dictionary of Philosophy, Cambridge, Cambridge University Press.

POJMAN, LOUIS P. (1996) Philosophy: The Quest for Truth, New York, Wadsworth Publishing Company.

STACE, W.T. (1952)(1976) Religion and the Modern Mind, in John R. Burr and Milton Goldinger (eds), Philosophy and Contemporary Issues, London, Collier Macmillan Publishers.

THIESSEN, HENRY C. (1956) Introductory Lectures in Systematic Theology, Grand Rapids, Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Company.

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12 comments:

  1. Tell 'em what the Scot answered when you asked about the quality of the recording (it was actually an excellent-sounding recording)...

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  2. At a record store in Edinburgh, Chucky and I found some good sounding Jethro Tull unofficial recordings for under 10 pounds each. I stated to Chuck that it was a very good deal. The owner overheard and stated something along the lines of, 'I don't have dummy stamped across my forehead, the recording is 'clrap'! I bought three of the albums, and Chucky bought one...no regrets! It was 'fiit'.

    The store was called Hot Wax.

    Hot Wax
    5 Home Street
    Edinburgh
    Midlothian
    EH3 9JR

    Tel: 0131-228-202

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  3. If there is a God who is Omnipotent and all powerful, there can be nothing done outside of His Will. All creation functions within His Sovereign Will. Therefore we have free will within the walls of God's Sovereign Will.
    Thanks for the article!
    -Making Sense Of It All-

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  4. Interesting reading Russ.
    I'm not sure I understand every jot and tittle but very thought provoking. Anonymous made an interesting comment and you gave him the thumbs up.
    I was wondering, just wondering how we interpret "nevertheless not my will but thine be done". Luke 22:42 If I hear you correctly (I learnt that in my counselling course) we have a will that is our will but only if it is within God's plan.
    Catch you soon Russ.
    Russell `:-)

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  5. It seems to me that Jesus in his human will desired something, but had a greater desire to do the will of the Father and therefore God's will. The Father guided Jesus throughout his life. Jesus was fully God, but was true man as well. He submitted his will to that of the Father and God. Philippians 2:6-7 comes to mind as Christ set aside his privileges as God, in order to serve.

    Everyone is always within God's will in a sense, but not always in God's will obediently. I would reason that Jesus was always obedient, but simply expressed a natural human desire.

    Thanks, Russell!:)

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  6. I remember my Bible College days and "sovereignty" of God issues always made for some interesting discussions. My answer always used to be, "God's will, that's right."
    Russell. :-)

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  7. Oh we have had THIS discussion in our bible group some time ago as well (seems that we hit all the classics by now ;-)).

    And I am still into Phillip Yancey's book PRAYER. Yesterday I read a passage, that asked why God should answer prayers for a parking spot but not the prayers for world peace - there was an excellent summary on that issue and it also hit the question of fate and destiny...

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  8. That is very good to read, Helen, a Bible study that discusses fatalism.

    Russ:)

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  9. Sounds like I need to brush up a bit - far too rusty.
    Best wishes

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  10. Cheers, Maddy.

    We just need to keep learning, with God's help.:)

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