Saturday, April 04, 2020

Verecundiam, Argumentum, Ad/Appeal to false authority

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somewhere in North America: Facebook
Verecundiam, Argumentum, Ad/Appeal to false authority

Preface

Main source:

PIRIE, MADSEN (2006)(2015) How To Win Every Argument, Bloomsbury, London.

Defined

Verecundiam, Argumentum, Ad:  Pirie explains this is an appeal to false authority. (210). A key, quote '...it is a fallacy to suppose that an expert in one field can lend support in another. Unless one has special expertise, he is a false authority.' (210).

Pirie explains that 'Knowledge is specialized, and we have to accept the views of authorities to some extent.' (2010). There is a general reluctance to challenge the view of someone who appears much more qualified than ordinary people. (2010).

When this person (s), the source, is not reasonably qualified, this is an appeal to authority, Verecundiam, Argumentum, Ad. (2010-2011). A related fallacy is an appeal to an identified authority. (2011). Supposedly, a highly qualified anonymous source (2011), would qualify as an appeal to an identified authority. These sources may or may not, be reliable, but as they are anonymous, Pirie explains, 'All we can do is to accept the apparent authority they have.' (2012).

Or not, I would add...

With his entry on authorityBlackburn states: 'A person, institution, or organization is said to have authority when the power it exercises is supposed legitimate...'(30). Blackburn mentions there is a system of 'norms' by which authority is assumed and asserted. (30). He acknowledges that there is 'scepticism about particular claims of authority...' (30). Based on his comments: Blackburn indicates that human society cannot function adequately without a significant acceptance of professional authority guiding that society. (30).


Cited 

'Department of Philosophy Dr. Craig Hanks, Chair '

'Irrelevant Authority 

The fallacy of irrelevant authority is committed when you accept without proper support for his or her alleged authority, a person's claim or proposition as true. Alleged authorities should only be used when the authority is reporting on his or her field of expertise, the authority is reporting on facts about which there is some agreement in his or her field, and you have reason to believe he or she can be trusted. Alleged authorities can be individuals or groups. The attempt to appeal to the majority or the masses is a form of irrelevant authority. The attempt to appeal to an elite or select group is a form of irrelevant authority. 

Examples: 

Brad Pitt was seen wearing Designer Bob's sunglasses, so they must be the best sunglasses to wear. 

There is nothing to be learned from the East, for Gilbert Ryle, the great British philosopher once said, nothing but the sun rises in the East. 

Nobody is a better judge than public opinion.

Pacifism is a good idea because the brilliant scientist Einstein advocated it. 

Mom, why can't I get my tongue pierced? Everyone else is doing it. 

Most of my friends say they stopped thinking about philosophy the minute they got through the semester, so I know this class is worthless. 

Everyone loves the Danger Kitty album; they must be a great band. 

I agree with Alec Baldwin's stance on global warming. He must know what he's talking about, being a famous celebrity and all.'
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Cited 

'Appeal to False Authority (also known as: appeal to doubtful authority, appeal to dubious authority, appeal to improper authority, appeal to inappropriate authority, appeal to irrelevant authority, appeal to misplaced authority, appeal to unqualified authority, argument from false authority) 

Description: Using an alleged authority as evidence in your argument when the authority is not really an authority on the facts relevant to the argument. As the audience, allowing an irrelevant authority to add credibility to the claim being made. Also see the appeal to authority. 

Logical Forms: According to person 1 (who offers little or no expertise on Y being true), Y is true. Therefore, Y is true.' 

'References: 

Hume, D. (2004)  An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Courier Corporation.'
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Not too far away...
Summary

My examples

Professor Jones is an expert on the Hebrew Bible, therefore he is an expert on philosophy.

Pastor Jones is a popular preacher, therefore he is an excellent theologian.

My take, non-exhaustively, is that authority is worthy of trust when he/she, the source, often professionally, is through the use of specialized, research, knowledge and evidence, providing reasonable and true premises supporting a true conclusion. Providing a sound argument, which is an argument with all true premises. Or at least, reasonable, true, statements/propositions are provided by a true, actual, authority if not an argument (s). It is true, of course, that a legitimate authority could be in error on a topic and issue.

Within a topic in context, embracing to significant degrees, propositions and/or arguments from non-experts, those without specialized, research, knowledge and evidence that are highly reliant on types of speculation, is Verecundiam, Argumentum, Ad/Appeal to false authority. This done without reasonable and true propositions and/or reasonable and true premises leading to a reasonable and true conclusion, through, for example, the use of feelings, hunches and guessing is both the fallacy as described and is a philosophical error.
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BLACKBURN, SIMON (1996) Oxford Dictionary of Philosophy, Oxford, Oxford University Press.

CONWAY DAVID A. AND RONALD MUNSON (1997) The Elements of Reasoning, Wadsworth Publishing Company, New York. 

GEIVETT, R. DOUGLAS (1993) Evil and the Evidence for God, Philadelphia, Temple University Press. 

LANGER, SUSANNE K (1953)(1967) An Introduction to Symbolic Logic, Dover Publications, New York. (Philosophy).

PIRIE, MADSEN (2006)(2015) How To Win Every Argument, Bloomsbury, London.

PLANTINGA, ALVIN C. (1977)(2002) God, Freedom, and Evil, Grand Rapids, Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Company. 

POJMAN, LOUIS P. (1996) Philosophy: The Quest for Truth, New York, Wadsworth Publishing Company. 

SAMPLES, KENNETH (2014) How to Evaluate an Abductive Argument, Reasons to Believe, Covina, California.

Thursday, April 02, 2020

My pre-Reformed stage

Near the fireplace...
Apparently as a toddler, at least once, as I was probably angry with my mother, I ate parts of some of her plants and then hid in the wood fireplace and closed the gate, covered in ashes. I then waited for my parents to find me, I am told.

My mother has told me that in the past, I blamed God for everything.

(My pre-Reformed stage)

Incidentally, no one has invited me over to their home very recently...

King James Version

Job 2:8

And he took him a potsherd to scrape himself withal; and he sat down among the ashes.

King James Version

Job 42: 6

Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.

English Standard Version

Jonah 3: 6

The word reached the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, removed his robe, covered himself with sackcloth, and sat in ashes.

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This post is a near duplicate of the post of the same title, on Satire Und Theology...

Facebook has in error blocked my second Blogger website, Satire Und Theology from posting entries on my Facebook business page, Russell Norman Murray, PhD. Facebook falsely claims I violated community standards with a recent entry where Kenneth Copeland is on a YouTube video stating...

Quote: The Devil's tryin' to give me the flu

Further, the Blogger entry and the associated Facebook entry contained the following comments from me:

Presumptive theology in regards to God, Satanic beings and humanity, and making money in the process.
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Obviously, my entry was not supporting Kenneth Copeland's claim.

I have made three requests from Facebook for clarification regarding community standards. No
reply.

Saturday, February 04, 2017 Eats plants & hide in the wood fireplace, covered in ashes

Tuesday, March 31, 2020

2 Peter 3: 8-9 Theological leanings so far

Barcelona: trekearth.com
2 Peter 3: 8-9 Theological leanings so far

Key related archives


Preface

Saturday, July 13, 2019 Second Peter 3 & Canada Prophecy Conference

I have noted that at a Canada Prophecy Conference in 2019, the main speaker, well-known pastor and biblical scholar, Dr. David Hocking, stated that regarding 2 Peter 3: 9, it was (paraphrased) written to Christian readers regarding repentance before they perish. In context, this would be repentance before death, in Jesus Christ. This supports my tentative view.

2 Peter 3: 8-9

8 But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day. 9 The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance. New American Standard Bible (NASB)

Strong's Concordance

‘You’ #2248 Original Greek word ἡμᾶς Meaning: our, us, we. The meaning is also documented for 2 Peter 3:9. The word being changed slightly in this usage. Strong (1890)(1986: 45). ὑμᾶς 

Strong's Concordance 

‘Perish’ #622 ‘Perish’ Original Word: ἀπόλλυμι Meaning: to destroy fully, to perish, to lose, literal or figurative, die. Documented in the context of Second Peter. Strong (1890)(1986: 16). The word being altered slightly in this usage. ἀπολέσθαι 

Millard Erickson

In regards to issues raised from 2 Peter 3: 8-9

We must distinguish between two different senses of God’s will, which we will refer to as God’s “wish” (will1) and God’s will (will2).’ (361). Will1 is God’s general intention and Will2 is God’s specific intention.

Or it could be stated Will1=God’s perfect will and Will2=God’s permissible will.

Reformed theology

As my Hebrews professor informed me at Columbia Bible College (paraphrased), within God's eternal, sovereign, plans, although all human beings have a fallen nature (consciousness, desires, will, my add) outside of Christ by default (see Romans 1-3, especially), some have a fallen nature (consciousness, desires, will, my add), that will never accept Christ and be acceptable to God. Others will be regenerated (Titus 3, and being born again, John 3, see also 1 Peter 1). This is done by grace through faith, and not by human works righteousness.

Therefore, God’s eternal, perfect will, and not God's eternal, permissible will, would actually be for some to reject him and remain everlastingly outside of his Kingdom, although in a sense, it is theologically, reasonably, possible that God wishes it would be otherwise. I acknowledge possible interpretations supporting the idea that universal salvation is God's perfect will, that will not actually occur, within scholarship in 2 Peter 3: 8-9 and 1 Timothy 2: 4.

1 Timothy 2, 6

1 Timothy 2:3-4 New American Standard Bible (NASB) 3 This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the [a]knowledge of the truth. Footnotes: a 1 Timothy 2:4 Or recognition

However, I favour a Reformed perspective here that 'who desires all men to be saved...' is not the divine context of God wishing all humanity would be saved, but that all ethnic groups of humanity would be saved.

One example from other scholarship...

Reformed Answers Dr. Joseph R. Nally, Jr., D.D., M.Div. is the Theological Editor at Third Millennium Ministries (Thirdmill)

Cited

Calvinism and 1 Timothy 2:4, 6?

Cited

1 Timothy 2:4 who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 

1 Timothy 2:6 who gave himself as a ransom for all, which is the testimony given at the proper time.

Cited

Salvation is not limited to a particular ethnic group or gender or to any other subsection of humanity. Moreover, that the word "all" is commonly used to mean "all types" can be seen clearly in 1 Timothy 6:10, where the same Greek word is translated "all kinds." Although the value of Christ's death is infinite, his sacrifice on the Cross was fully effective in winning the salvation of the elect only. 

Bible Hub

Cited

1 Timothy 6:10

of all πάντων (pantōn) 3956: all, every a prim. word
sorts of evil, κακῶν (kakōn)

Bible Hub

Cited

1 Timothy 2:4 Adj-AMP (Accusative, masculine, plural)

πάντας (pantas)

GRK: ὃς πάντας ἀνθρώπους θέλει 
NAS: who desires all men to be saved 
KJV: Who will have all men to be saved, 
INT: who all men wishes

Bible Hub

Cited

1 Timothy 2:6 Adj-GMP (Genitive, masculine plural)

πάντων (pantōn)

GRK: ἀντίλυτρον ὑπὲρ πάντων τὸ μαρτύριον
NAS: as a ransom for all, the testimony
KJV: for all, to be testified
INT: a ransom for all the testimony

It seems to me the interpretation of Dr. Nally is not strictly identical to the Bible Hub, New Testament Greek interpretation, but the theological idea is basically the same. If God wishes to save within all ethnic groups and not all persons, this places doubt that God's wish to save all, as Erickson provided as a theological option, is God's perfect will, by my definition.

God's wish, but not his perfect will

A theological deduction could be made, that in a sense, and only in a sense, it is logically possible that God wishes for salvation for all (universalism) within his will, but it will not occur as God has greater plans. This is not outlandish or unreasonable. On one hand, God desires me not to sin, he does not tempt me (James 1), but on the other hand, God created humanity with an eternal plan of salvation from sin. I have an inherited, sinful nature and had no choice in the matter, but I have limited free will regarding embracing sin or not.

Jesus Christ showed his disciple and friend, Judas Iscariot love, but it was still God's perfect will for Judas to betray him.

John 6:70 New American Standard Bible (NASB) 70 Jesus answered them, “Did I Myself not choose you, the twelve, and yet one of you is a devil?”

Does God love all his creation?

Does God have no love for his fallen angels? Yet, they are damned and doomed in their own rebellion (Revelation 20). God has no plan of salvation for fallen angels, but in a sense, God could wish, I suppose, that all his creation eventually is in harmony with him. Yet, this will never be the case. The lake of fire is ultimately the destination for those not in the Kingdom of God, both angelic and human. (Revelation 20).

God's eternal plan

Some within humanity will be regenerated, justified and sanctified in salvation and some will not. This being God's perfect will. Christ is the lamb slain from the foundation (foundations also works theologically) of the world (Revelation 13: 8, see also Revelation 5 for related).

Revelation 3: 5

English Standard Version (ESV) 5 The one who conquers will be clothed thus in white garments, and I will never blot his name out of the book of life. I will confess his name before my Father and before his angel

The gospel and the applied atoning and resurrection work of Jesus Christ, are part of God's eternal plans, as are those whose names are within the book of life.

Ephesians 1: 3-4

Ephesians 1:3-4 New American Standard Bible (NASB) 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, 4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before [a]Him. In love Footnotes: (a) Ephesians 1:4 Or Him, in love

God's eternal plan as the first and primary cause, included a human sin, fall and rebellion. This implies significantly free creatures that will sin, is the eternal plan which makes sense as Christ is the lamb slain from the foundation/foundations of the world, in other words, the atoning and resurrection work of God the Son, Jesus Christ, applied to those chosen is an eternal triune, plan. Persons are morally accountable for sin as secondary causes, as long as they are not forced or coerced to do so, and therefore those not within the Kingdom of God, post-mortem, with limited free will, embrace their exclusion.

God's perfect will is that this temporal, temporary realm exists, but to be clear, I still reason that many human sinful, acts and actions are allowed within his permissible will.

Summary

It is theologically possible that it is God's perfect will that occurs, regarding human salvation and the citizenship of those within the culminated Kingdom of God. It is my theological leaning so far that 2 Peter 3: 8-9, is not discussing salvation. It is likely not God's perfect divine will for all in humanity to be saved. At best, within Reformed theology, God could be wishing for salvation for all, but I am not biblically and theologically convinced that salvation is the context in 2 Peter 3: 8-9. What is more likely being discussed in 2 Peter 3: 8-9, is the repentance of  'you', those in Jesus Christ. The 'you' being those already covered by the applied atoning and resurrection work of Jesus Christ. Those in the Christian Church reading the scripture.
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A Study of 2 Peter 3:10-13 -- By: R. Larry Overstreet: Journal: Bibliotheca Sacra Volume: BSAC 137:548 (Oct 1980) Article: A Study of 2 Peter 3:10-13 Author: R. Larry Overstreet BSac 137:548 (Oct 80) p. 354 A Study of 2 Peter 3:10-13 R. Larry Overstreet [R. Larry Overstreet, Professor of Homiletics, Grace Theological Seminary, Winona Lake, Indiana] 

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CAIRD, GEORGE B. (1977) Paul's Letters from Prison Paperback, Oxford, Oxford University Press.

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DUNN, JAMES D.G. (1988) Romans, Dallas, Word Books.

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ELWELL, WALTER AND YARBROUGH, ROBERT W., Third Edition (2013) Encountering The New Testament, Grand Rapids, Baker Academic.

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GUNDRY, ROBERT (1981) A Survey of the New Testament, Grand Rapids, Zondervan.

HARPUR, GEORGE (1986) Ephesians in The International Bible Commentary, Grand Rapids, Zondervan.

HOCKING, DAVID (2014) The Book of Revelation, Tustin, California, HFT Publications.

LIGHTFOOT, JOHN B. (1993) The Destination of the Epistle to the Ephesians in Biblical Essays, New York, Macmillan.

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MOUNCE, ROBERT H. (1990) The Book of Revelation, Grand Rapids, William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company.

MOUNCE, ROBERT H. (1995) The New American Commentary: Romans, Nashville, Broadman & Holman Publishers.

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Monday, March 30, 2020

Facebook jail? Facebook quarantine?

Tech Grench
Facebook
Facebook has in error blocked my second Blogger website, Satire Und Theology from posting entries on my Facebook business page, Russell Norman Murray, PhD. Facebook falsely claims I violated community standards with a recent entry where Kenneth Copeland is on a YouTube video stating...

Quote: The Devil's tryin' to give me the flu

Further, the Blogger entry and the associated Facebook entry contained the following comments from me:

Presumptive theology in regards to God, Satanic beings and humanity, and making money in the process.
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Obviously, my entry was not supporting Kenneth Copeland's claim.

I have made three requests from Facebook for clarification in regard to community standards. No reply.

I am taking this Facebook ban of Satire Und Theology with a grain of salt. I reason it was done hastily, within a politically correct environment and without a reasonable, studied, evaluation of what I actually posted.

I am annoyed but I am at the same time acknowledging that as with everything that happens in reality, it is either within God's perfect or permissible will. Satire Und Theology was banned in error once before by Facebook and Facebook soon apologized and ended the ban. I can acknowledge that the lack of Facebook response to my legitimate concerns may have to do with fewer employees present due to the COVID-19 pandemic. I wish the Facebook team, well.

I show grace as God demonstrates divine grace for me in the gospel.

John 1:14 English Standard Version (ESV) 14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son[a] from the Father, full of grace and truth. Footnotes: John 1:14 Or only One, or unique One

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