Populum, Argumentum Ad

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This fallacy is a particular irritant and was as well, before I was an academic. But I will attempt objectivity.

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'The argumentum ad populum appeals to popular attitudes instead of presenting relevant material. In other words, it is based on prejudice. It exploits the known propensity of people to accept that which fits in comfortably with their preconceptions. The popular prejudices may or may not be justified, but the speaker who makes his case depend solely upon them is guilty of an ad populum fallacy. Pirie (165).

I am reasoning it should state 'depending'. I do this humbly as I have my share of technical errors, being my own proofreader! I edit when I am aware it is needed.

Further, the author explains that this fallacy can inflame passions and prejudices more appropriate to mass hysteria than to rational discourse. (165).

Those that use this fallacy 'take the easy way out'. (165).

This relates to my philosophical complaint in regard to lazy thinking and cop-out thinking.

Not that any human being has perfect thinking, but at times corrective reasoning should be pursued.

Playing on the emotions of the multitude. (165). Or, trusting in that fallacious type of thinking in regard to personal preferences and convictions, as opposed to researching and asking God for truth, even if that is uncomfortable truth.

Blackburn agrees with Pirie, basically, stating that this fallacy is 'appealing to the prejudices of the people.' (24).

Relevant and obviously non-exhaustive examples:

Significantly accepting the views of a known teacher over a critiques of a less known teacher, because the known teacher is more popular. Not primarily because of the merits of argumentation.

Considering one person in a romantic context over another significantly because it is more socially and culturally acceptable, not mainly based on character and other positive attributes.

BLACKBURN, SIMON (1996) Oxford Dictionary of Philosophy, Oxford, Oxford University Press. 

PIRIE, MADSEN (2006)(2015) How To Win Every Argument, Bloomsbury, London.

Mark Final Study: Robots?

May 11

Christianity Explored

My friend 'Chucky' and the rumoured computer chip installed in his brain. Is he a possible robot candidate and within his hyper-Mennonite upbringing, a classic victim of hard determinism?

Mark Final Study: Robots?

During the Christianity Explored, Gospel of Mark course, finale, a 'seeker', now with a Bible, asked (paraphrased):

Why does God not just create people that believe in Jesus Christ?

An excellent question and actually I view it and its ramifications as a serious objection to a classic libertarian free will defence and incompatibilism.

There are both non-Christian and Reformed objections to libertarian free will views; please see bibliography, in particular Mackie, Flew, Plantinga and Feinberg.

Please also see this site archives.

A kind Roman Catholic, evangelical answered with the classic and typical evangelical church answer (paraphrased):

People could not love God without the option of free will and the option to not to love God; otherwise people were robots.

I respectfully answered that within a Reformed tradition there was a better answer, although her answer had some truth to it. I replied along the lines as I have written in my PhD and on my academic sites which I will present again in a more complex form than in the course:

God could inevitably bring about, through the use of the regeneration and the resurrection of elected human persons, the end of human corruption, and even Plantinga’s concept of transworld depravity. Plantinga (1977)(2002: 53). If God willed and created a finalized Kingdom of restored persons that had experienced the problem of evil and were saved from it, then it could be reasoned that with God’s constant persuasion through the Holy Spirit and human experience and maturity, transworld depravity would never take place again.

No human wrong decision would need to occur as God always determines otherwise, without force and coercion; restored human beings do not lack experience as did the first humans (Adam and Eve) who rebelled against God causing corruption.

I speculate that theological praxis of sovereignty theodicy is more certain and comforting than free will theodicy, as transworld depravity is overcome by taking the primary choice (secondary human choice remains as simultaneously caused by God) of human belief in God away from corrupted human beings. Augustine (421)(1998: Chapter 13: 8). Plantinga (1982: 184-189). Calvin (1539)(1998: Book II, Chapter 2, 7). Luther (1516)(1968: 31). Feinberg (1994: 126-127).

It is placed in the hands of a sovereign God.

I have also written on the issue of God being perfectly able to create significantly free creatures that do not sin:

Greg Welty And Christ As Sinless Human Being (PhD Edit) March 10, 2014

The church table leader kindly attempted to shed light on the discussion by stating I was Reformed and did not believe in free will, but I stated that I do not believe in libertarian free will, but limited free will. I had stated earlier in the conversation that I was a soft determinist.

I realize many incompatibilists will not accept the soft determinism/hard determinism distinction, intellectually preferring a blanket 'determinism' term; but academically, theologically and philosophically, a significant distinction remains:

Significant human will or human free will is removed from a hard determinism model.

Significant human will or limited free will or like (freely) remains within many Reformed models, including mine and that of John S. Feinberg in 'The Many Faces of Evil'.

Some hyper-Calvinists may rightly be considered hard determinists.

Another recent article:

Middle Knowledge Revisited April 20 2016

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PLANTINGA, ALVIN C. (2000) Warranted Christian Belief, Oxford, Oxford University Press. 

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Verecundiam, Argumentum, Ad/To My Friend In Regard To C.S. Lewis

Verecundiam, Argumentum, Ad/To My Friend In Regard To C.S. Lewis

Preface

Updated August 29 2023

Photo features 'Bob Ross' 'cheater trees', covered by 'pollution', August 27, 2023, Port Moody, British Columbia 

Verecundiam, Argumentum, Ad

A Facebook discussion: May 2016

A Facebook friend and I were at one time discussing C.S. Lewis as a writer. My friend was defending Lewis as a fiction writer, which I can view as reasonable. There was no disagreement on that issue.

My friend was offended that I did not particularly embrace the non-fiction theological and philosophical writings of C.S. Lewis. In particular his writings on the problem of evil and the nature of God, as these are areas of my academic expertise through academic degrees and website work. I am not whatsoever, claiming to be a C.S. Lewis scholar or a scholar in regard to his fictional works. I do agree with Lewis on several theological and philosophical points. 

I am not stating I cannot learn from the writings of C.S. Lewis in regard to theology and philosophy. There are many writers and speakers I can learn from. However, C.S. Lewis is not primarily an authority I would appeal to, which I very much realize is contrary to many evangelical, North American pastors and church attenders.

My friend opined (paraphrased) that appealing to academic sources such as myself in regard to theology and philosophy of religion and differing in any negative way from the theological and philosophical work of C.S.Lewis was fallacious. As in the fallacy, 'Verecundiam, Argumentum, Ad', my friend indicated.

My friend also stated that some in the 'New Age' have doctorates and are not authorities. I stated that I was not academically and intellectually defending all of the views of those with doctorates. Far from it, if a person actually regularly reads my articles posted on my sites; I am not a supporter of views primarily, at least, based on the fact a source has a doctorate or not.

Again, the review of the Pirie text: 

(As a different friend told me on the phone one time, 'It is like you have three jobs.')

Pirie and Blackburn

Pirie explains that Verecundiam, Argumentum, Ad  is an appeal to false authority. (210).

Here is a key, quote

'...it is a fallacy to suppose that an expert in one field can lend support in another. Unless one has special expertise, he is a false authority' (210).

Blackburn agrees basically with Pirie and my view:

'ad verecundiam appealing to an authority outside its legitimate area'. (24).

Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy

Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy 

Cited

'The ad verecundiam fallacy concerns appeals to authority or expertise. Fundamentally, the fallacy involves accepting as evidence for a proposition the pronouncement of someone who is taken to be an authority but is not really an authority. This can happen when non-experts parade as experts in fields in which they have no special competence—when, for example, celebrities endorse commercial products or social movements. Similarly, when there is controversy, and authorities are divided, it is an error to base one’s view on the authority of just some of them.'  (End citation)

My perspective

C.S. Lewis was a Christian apologist and 'pop' popular theology writer on some issues.

C.S. Lewis was not an academically trained theologian or philosopher.

C.S. Lewis Wikipedia

Cited 

'Clive Staples Lewis, FBA (29 November 1898 – 22 November 1963) was a British writer, literary scholar, and Anglican lay theologian. He held academic positions in English literature at both Oxford University (Magdalen College, 1925–1954) and Cambridge University (Magdalene College, 1954–1963).'

Lay theologian Wikipedia

Cited 

'A lay theologian is a theologian "who is not ordained, or a theologian who has not been trained as a theologian".[1] Lay theologians often have academic qualifications in other academic disciplines.'

(End citation)

Academic research in theology, philosophy and philosophy of religion, is special expertise. My professional and special expertise and academic training is in theology, philosophy of religion and biblical studies.

More specifically, my professional and special expertise and academic training is in regard to the problem of evil, the nature of God, free will and determinism. I reviewed C.S. Lewis' theological views in regard to problem of evil and the nature of God, within my MPhil thesis.

Therefore, I commit no fallacy by with at least some expertise, opining on the related theological and philosophical work of C.S. Lewis. Pirie further explains that that fallacy introduces material that has no bearing on the matter under discussion. (211). Such as in my case, with friend, attacking my credentials, because even some people in the 'New Age' have doctorates.

As I did research some C.S. Lewis for my MPhil thesis, I do happen to acknowledge that Lewis is a reasonable source within Christian scholarship. But, he is not personally, one of my key sources. My work is not perfect, and I admit I edit my work. I admit I am finite and sinful, but I am not in error on this issue by using a fallacy or the Verecundiam, Argumentum, Ad, fallacy. At the same time, I am not claiming an infinite understanding of the issue, I am not infinite, obviously!

BLACKBURN, SIMON (1996) Oxford Dictionary of Philosophy, Oxford, Oxford University Press.

CONWAY DAVID A. AND RONALD MUNSON (1997) The Elements of Reasoning, Wadsworth Publishing Company, New York. 

LANGER, SUSANNE K (1953)(1967) An Introduction to Symbolic Logic, Dover Publications, New York. (Philosophy). 

LEWIS, C.S. (1961)(1983) A Grief Observed, London, Faber and Faber. MPhil 2003

LEWIS, C.S. (1941)(1990) The Screwtape Letters, Uhrichsville, Ohio, Barbour and Company. MPhil 2003

LEWIS, C.S. (1940)(1996) The Problem of Pain, San Francisco, Harper-Collins. MPhil 2003

PIRIE, MADSEN (2006)(2015) How To Win Every Argument, Bloomsbury, London.

STANFORD ENCYCLOPEDIA OF PHILOSOPHY (2020) Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy 

by Hans Hansen.

Mark 10 Sixth Short Study/The Dangers Of Exaggerated Critique

Abbotsford, after church, May 4

Colourized version

I think both photos are decent versions, considering they are from my new LG mobile and not from a professional camera or from a professional photographer. I like the bluish original as much as the reddish colourized version, but neither caught the actual essence and brilliance of the colours.

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The Dangers Of Exaggerated Critique

After class I viewed on the Knowledge Network

David Starkey's: Music & Monarchy

Dr. Starkey told a version of the following story...

Wikipedia

'The ejection of non-conforming Puritan ministers from the Church of England in the 1630s provoked a reaction. Puritan laymen spoke out against Charles's policies, with the bishops the main focus of Puritan ire. The first, and most famous, critic of the Caroline regime was William Prynne. In the late 1620s and early 1630s, Prynne had authored a number of works denouncing the spread of Arminianism in the Church of England, and was also opposed to Charles's marrying a Catholic. Prynne became a critic of morals at court.

Prynne was also a critic of societal morals more generally. Echoing John Chrysostom's criticism of the stage, Prynne penned a book, Histriomastix, in which he denounced the stage in vehement terms for its promotion of lasciviousness. The book, which represents the highest point of the Puritans' attack on the English Renaissance theatre, attacked the stage as promoting lewdness. Unfortunately for Prynne, his book appeared at about the same time that Henrietta Maria became the first royal to ever perform in a masque, Walter Montagu's The Shepherd's Paradise, in January 1633. Histriomastix was widely read as a Puritan attack on the queen's morality. Shortly after becoming Archbishop of Canterbury, William Laud prosecuted Prynne in the Court of Star Chamber on a charge of seditious libel. Unlike the common law courts, Star Chamber was allowed to order any punishment short of the death penalty, including torture, for crimes which were founded on equity, not on law. Seditious libel was one of the "equitable crimes" which were prosecuted in the Star Chamber. Prynne was found guilty and sentenced to imprisonment, a £5000 fine, and the removal of part of his ears.

Prynne continued to publish from prison, and in 1637, he was tried before Star Chamber a second time. This time, Star Chamber ordered that the rest of Prynne's ears be cut off, and that he should be branded with the letters S L for "seditious libeller". (Prynne would maintain that the letters really stood for stigmata Laudis (the marks of Laud).) At the same trial, Star Chamber also ordered that two other critics of the regime should have their ears cut off for writing against Laudianism: John Bastwick, a physician who wrote anti-episcopal pamphlets; and Henry Burton.'

Dr. Starkey stated (paraphrased) that Prynne had called stage actresses 'whores' and this eventually led to his prosecution and the removal of his ears. Unfortunately the queen of that era had recently been performing on stage.

Another lesson on being careful what one states and writes, including the dangers of exaggerated critique in a serious context. If satire is used, it should be cautiously and respectfully.

Christianity Explored

Mark 10 Sixth Short Study

Christianity Explored

Mark 10:13-16

In regard to Jesus blessing the little children, at the table we agreed that the disciples at least somewhat misunderstood the ministry of Jesus Christ in attempting to prohibit the children access to him, the Messiah and Lord, in as much as the disciples understood the true nature of Christ, prior to the resurrection.

As Christ noted, to be in the Kingdom of God, a child-like faith is required by humanity and I stated that with all my research, I consider myself finite and sinful, implying therefore a child-like faith is appropriate.

The child-like qualities of 'trust and receptiveness' being crucial in this context. Short (1986: 1170).

At our table, we agreed that children are generally more willing to accept things by grace through faith than are adults. Short states in regard to child-like faith: 'apart from any thought of merit...' Short (1986: 1170).

See also

Matthew 19
Luke 18

SHORT, STEPHEN S. (1986) ‘Mark’, in F.F. Bruce (ed.), The International Bible Commentary, Grand Rapids, Zondervan.